Ya, casue my first RC was a Pede and that was back..... 1995 or 1996 and they had already been around awhile. I just bought another Pede off Ebay only 3 months old XL-5 version, and the only thing different was the mounting plate for the ESC cause the ESC got smaller. so 10+ years, one plate, dont think they are gonna do anything with it soon.