Flying 'on the wing' is almost unfamiliar to those guys with hugemongous engines. The R/C plane is typically WAY overpowered compared to its full-scale counterpart. 'Point and shoot' is probably more apropos to the way second and third-plane fliers fly. Trainer wings - the fat, flat-bottomed ones - will 'mush' before they stall, if in fact they'll stall at all. A real eye-opener is going to, say, a Goldberg Cub, which, though a floater, has a very distinct stall. And this thread is zooming in all directions We must be showing off our rudder skills!