Well I will find out today. I have made some changes that will allow me to move the CG by sliding the battery. On the balance jig I have it moves the CG two inches both foward and back. I did a latteral balance and found the right wing to be heavy and corrected that. I re-read the article on wing-tip weight and,as someone on this thread had said, pertains to take off and usually war-birds and trainers. I don't think it would help me as take-offs and landings are fine. Take offs have a slight lean but I will learn that and landings are so easy and sweet I think my wife can land it and she don't fly. I did notice that slow, wide loops are no9t affected by the "roll-out" so limiting the amount of elevator may be the only solution. As for the balance, my dad and mentor, said that a little nose heavy is a lot easier to handle than tail heavy so that is the reason for the slide deal I made on the CG. I want to tak the chance to tell all of you how much it helps to have a place like this to go to when I feel a little lost or confused on a issue. Which seems to happen a lot lately! You all make this hobby alot more fun. Gotta go and get ready. We, HRRC," Hampton Roads Remote Control", have a Toys For Tots fly in today and I want to get there early to make these trials befor the kids get there. Wish me luck and thanks for the help. James