Nitro, you are right on the money. Mine rockets out of a hover with the Park 480, CC Phoenix 35, and a 30c 2450 mah pack. By setting it up so the battery pack can be moved around to get differing CG's it can be a docile aerobat or with a rear CG it can be a 3D monster. I am not saying it's the best out there, but I haven't found anything better for the money.