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Old 11-21-2009 | 03:13 PM
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koolkrabber47
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Default RE: best for begginers

ORIGINAL: shajaan6

I too just asked this same question on the wrong forum. Oops! I looked at the sticky by RCKen, but there are only glow planes, I may be wrong, but I figured it would be best for me to learn on an electric that way I wouldnt have to deal with the engine and any problems it has. With electric I could focus on learning to fly, then move to the glow world. Like I said over there I dont really want a park flyer I think they are ugly, I was looking at some of the inducted fan rc planes alot of them said great for beginners but I dont know what to believe.

Only diffrence between RTF and BNF is with BNF I can choose and buy whatever remote I want, but all the equipment is in the plane correct?

Thanks for all the help provided by the RCU people in advance!

shajaan6, let me see if i can help you and respond to some of your questions.....on the one hand, you are right, with electric you don't have to worry about adjusting the carberator, just plug in the battery and go......but with electric, once you master the trainer and you want to move up to maybe a sport plane, you will be much more limited in finding a home for your electric motor......mind you, i'm not trying to talk you out of going electric.....i own both electric and nitro, mostly electric, even my helicopter is electric.....i have 9 parkflyer electric planes, 4 "big" planes on nitro and a heli-max axe 400 3d ccpm electric helicopter.....all my electrics are parkflyers, usually 30"-32" range wingspan and they are great.....i mostly use my electrics in low wind and when space is limited......the electrics are good because they are smaller and fit in the trunk of my car and i don't have to carry all the fuel and starters and flight box,etc....i grab my radio, two planes and a half a dozen batteries or so and i'm gone.....at the end of the day, no mess in my trunk, no cleaning my planes and the wifey's not complaining cause the car smells like gas.....with the gas on the other hand, i have to take my truck, because of the mess and because they're just too big.....but i love my gasser planes.....you just can't beat the "smell" of nitro on a beautiful sunday morning of flying.....oh! and the sound, let's not forget the sound.....all of my motors are of the higher-end o.s. ax line and are especially potent.....they sound awesome when you come in over the runway,pull straight up and disappear into the clouds......ha! ha!, shajaan6, are you drooling yet???.....you sir are in the best hobby.....back to gas v/s electric....it's all preference.....if you plan on only owning 1-2 planes planes it's not that important.....if you can afford it and over time you want to own a "fleet", then it would be something to consider......i have a fleet because they are all different types of planes and thus each plane serves a different purpose.....i have 3D planes, sport planes, 1 trainer plane, 1 glider and 1 3D electric heli......right now i'm looking too add a "nostalgic" plane.....theres alot of them coming out right now......nostalgic planes are modern design planes that are dressed on the outside to look like the old style planes.....the hangar 9 saratoga 40 size nitro, electrifly four-star 25 size electric and the model tech dragon lady 60 size nitro are beautiful, modern designed planes with the "OLD SCHOOL" look's......i mention this because after you learn to fly your trainer and want to move up to something more "sporty", your gonna want to "reuse" as much gear from your trainer onto your second plane......hence the purpose of this long response.....as a "seasoned" flyer, 25+ years in the hobby, i could give you a short 2 sentence response or i could give you a comprehensive answer and cover all the angles and help you make a conscientious decision as to where you spend your limited,hard earned dollars......money is tight and hard to come by and if you spend it wisely it would not be long before you build up a nice little fleet of planes like the rest of us.....if you decide to go with an electric trainer theres not as many other sport planes where you can adapt that motor......if you go with say a 40 size nitro trainer, there are literally hundreds of sport planes, war birds, semi-scale, 3d and probably a few others that don't come to mind right now....i've got an old o.s. 40fp engine that i've had for at least 15 years and i've had it on about 8-10 different planes and it still runs like a top.....don't be afraid to learn how to adjust a nitro engine....it's like anything else, once you find someone to show you, you never forget.....one other thing....if you do go with an electric trainer, try to buy one with a "real" radio that you can reuse on your next plane.....keep in mind,some of those smaller, off-brand electric planes come with thier own proprietary brand of radio and are not alway's easily adaptable to other largerm mainstream brand of planes......the radio, servos and receivers are another area, depending on your budget, if you "get it right" the first time, will serve you for many,many years.....i've got a JR XP6102 computer radio, with 10 model memory, that i use for all my planes, gas, electric, big or small, it doesn't matter......initially i thought it was alot of money for this radio, but now looking back i think it was a smart decision.....i don't have to carry around 3-4 radio when i go fly and i don't have to worry about grabbing the wrong radio.....the night before i don't have to worry about charging the right radio.....just one radio for me and it has served me for many,many years.....i just recently bought my first 2.4 gigahertz radio....depending on your budget and how long you plan on being in the hobby, you might want to consider one of these radios as well......i know it sounds kinda expensive to purchase 2.4 ghz but, as much as we hate it, this is the "new" direction that hobby is headed.....if you think that's expensive, can you imagine me trying to convert 13 planes and one heli over to the new 2.4 ghz......i've already converted my heli and one plane, so that only leaves me with 12 more planes to convert.....i just bought the futaba 6ex 2.4 ghz. computer radio with 6 model memory and it's been nothing short of excellent......the only down side that i can see to the futaba brand is the 2.4 receivers are $100 a piece.....small potatoes when you have $5oo-$600 tied up in each plane, like i do......bottom line is, if you do decide to "dive" in to this hobby, progress slowly and ask a lot of questions.....it's really easy to get all excited and get caught up in all the hype and run out, prematurely and buy the first plane you see in a magazine ad......but, if your on a limited budget and you have to get it right the first time, stick to these "forums", ask a lot of questions and figure out which direction you want to go......i know this is kind of a long response but, as a "fellow flyer" i'm trying to be as informative as i can.......as the saying goes, somebody took me under the wing and taught me the ropes when i entered this wonderful hobby......i'm just passing the favor forward and in the future when you get good and knowledgable at this hobby, i hope you will do the same.....KOOLKRABBER47......