This is what I was talking about, These guys are recreational arguers, they are not here to do anything in particular, they found a controversial subject and they just try to lure people into their arguments. Nothing is solved and there is no redeeming value to what they do in here.

You don't have to look hard to see what you're dealing with.

I said what I came to say, unsubscribing now (You'll want to do that too or your mailbox will be full all the time) and I'll wander back in a few months from now.

Jim