Last weekend was beautiful here and I flew my Saratoga four or five times. It is as stable as a rock! It's really a fun plane to fly, just as you've already read. I still have some "Up Elevator" in it to keep it flying level, even with the cockpit and pilot in place.

I also have a Toledo Special. That plane flies level with the horizontal stabilizer totally flat, NO UP elevator. I borrowed a friend's Robart Incidence meter. I set the Toledo so that the when attached to the wing, the meter was at the zero mark. Then I checked the stabilizer, and it was at zero also. After seeing this, I did the same check on the Saratoga. I found that the stabilizer was not at zero. I used part of a popcicle stick between the fuselage and the horizontal stabilizer, spacing the rear upwards. I rechecked afterwards with the incidence meter, and now when the wing is at zero, so is the stabizer. I am betting that when that plane flies again, I won't have any "UP elevator" in it to keep it flying level. I'll keep ya'll posted.