Chad, I agree that there are big variables that can't be ignored such as prop size, RPM, etc. Also, looking at the online numbers is meaningless.

My observations are from looking at the Eagle Tree logs you've posted over the last few years compared to logs that I have running a Hacker C50 14XL. You're logs indicate that you pull higher amps with the outrunners than the C50 14XL inrunner.

I'm not trying to start a war, I don't care what motor anyone uses, just sharing my perspective and what I've observed to be the case.

Regarding the cheaper packs, I REALLY hope the price comes down at equal weight and good cycle life. I'll be watching eagerly to see. Unfortunately 25 flights on a non-pattern application with fewer cells, in my opinion, won't indicate the sutability of packs for pattern. Even if the packs are cheaper, wouldn't you still want to treat them kindly and get the most flights possible?

I'll be watching closely as you guys experiment and I'll be right behind you as soon as I see you're blazing a superior trail.

Keith B