Well, I guess we don't have to worry about monokote crushing airframes[sm=omg_smile.gif], just the installer from frustration. The simple fact is we are the modeler, they are the supplier, even if we all stop buying monokote, they are still going to make it, why? Because every arf they make has it on the surface, most people that buy an arf are not going to worry about how transparent, thin or impossible it is to apply, it's already done for them. The most you'll hear from them is it won't shrink. If it weren't for the arfs they make, it would be a different story, if sale declined because the product suxs, then they would do something about it, if it was cost effective, but knowing hobbico, they would rather discontinue it than actually spend any extra money to make it better. Money talks and bull walks, so far they say were full of bull, because how come they sell 1000's of arfs and people don't complain. I seriously know that towerkote is better, don't know why, I swear it's made by the same company for topflite, but it's actually workable. Ultracote has gotten pretty good ratings, 21st century, I tried it once, and I can't comment, it was way too long ago to remember the outcome. I do know that solartex and worldtex are way better to use than 21st century fabric from personal trials and tribulations. But that's fabric type covering.