804 is right that was our point of contention but of course other things need to be considered to properly understand the likely hood of whatever...

My opposing rationale stems from watching guys that do motocross, sometimes without all the protective gear, shake like a leaf after taking every possible caution to fly their model...and other scenarios that are similar...always struck me as a little odd.

Wonder if someone might like to start a poll in the clubhouse to see how others feel? I might if some else doesn't but that would spoil the contention that all I do is post here...and I certainly would hate to destroy that perception for anyone.