Okay i was talking to a guy and i won't say any names but he pm'ed me this.



"cOne WARNING on the ARF however: I would not buy it. Go with the kit, as it is structurally beter. Yes, there design is different. The ARF is not just "an already build kit"; it's design is different:

The wing is mounted in the middle of the fuse, and in the kit version the wing is glued (yes, it's a non-removable wing) to both the top and bottom part of the fuselage. Now, the top and bottom part of the fuselage is only about 1/2 inch width at widthest part of the wing. In the kit, there is a top and bottom fuselage balsa doubler, in between I have sandwiched some fiberglass.

In the ARF however, the bottom part has been cut lose from the fuse, making it a bolt-on bolt. The wing is glued only to the top half of the fuse, and I've hear that even there's no doubler. Making it really really WEAK. I've heard from several that have the ARF, the is just broke of during normal landing, or even in plane mid-air during flight.

So if you like to build, go with the kit. It's a lot stronger by design, and you can easy add some fiberglass at the weakest points to make it even better. If you go with the ARF, just take apart take bolt-on bellypan, reinforce the upper fuse part with a ply doubler, do the same in the bottom side, and get rid off that bolt-on thing that doesn't add any strength.. use epoxy to glue it on the bottom wing & fuse sides."



So after reading his advice and i have changed my mine on the dazzler. These are the planes i am looking at. big stick 40 Diffrent kind of big stick Easy Sport .