If not deleted so quickly maybe some of you fella's would heed my advise and steer clear of Nitro. I have been trying my best to let folks know that cheap is not good. Just like anything else you get what you pay for. When you buy a cheap plane ask yourself how do they sell them so cheap when other companies that build similar planes and heli's can't sell them for what Nitro does. Then when it won't leave the ground because of underpowerd motors Esc's and batteries you understand HOW the do it. Then you end up having to buy the motors etc that will actually fly it. And after your done buying one from say Horizon, Hanger 9 etc would actually end up cheaper and alot less stressful. Some of the guys here though think they are MR. Extreme Builder because they can actually make something out of them but exclude what they have to do to be able to fly them. Even the moderator here says Nitro is not for any begginer no matter what the ads say or what you buy. You need to have yrs. experience in building, all the tools, you would never need with another brand to check batteries, esc, motor voltage, well you get it. And then for the most part they still won't leave the ground without changing everything. They don't even send proper manuels and expect every one that buys from them to know exactly what where when and how to build might as well be a scratch builder, They do however have some cool paint schemes on there planes. I will give them that. But When a MODERATOR tells you not to go to where the company says go to for tech help well that should be the icing on the cake to steer clear because something is definetly wrong when your told to stay away from there tech support. Now every post saying anything derogatory about Nitro is deleted who can you trust NOT THIS SITE or they would not be deleting the posts describing REAL PROBLEMS seems they hurt themselves by hiding real issues folks have. AND THIS IS THE TRUTH. Used not to be that way but then they actually ran into OPJOSE who no matter what anyones problem is NITRO is not to blame it is you no flying, no building, so and so's that try to fly over your head even though you may have been flying for yrs. or own over 28 planes that all fly well but none are made by NITRO, CMP or any other affilitate of this NITRO site. IF you get to see this post you will be luck as OPJOSE will delete it as soon as he does and any other similar letting folks know to beware .