thanks Steve. The guy from lanier (Bubba) said if I send him a picture he'd help me identify it. I took the pics but forgot to email them to work to post here and send to bubba. Tonight. I'm guessing he'll know as its probably not a coincidence the mariner design is so similar , right down to the sculpted splash rails etc. I weighed the airframe and its exactly 10 lbs with no servos, motor, tank etc. More soon.