I have a 4 star 40 with a magum pro 45 on it... and i have no problem getting it to land... I cut the Throttle before the upwind turn and it still wants to just glide... I have to bring it down with the elevater.... this is my first low wing plane and the lost my high wing trainer on its second time at the field......after the first flight of having this four star in the air I was doing touch and goes in no time ........