i used a drop or two of thin ca to prime the surface because of the hardwood and then a couple of drops of medium ca before the thin setsto bind the surfaces and then a one inch bank pin centered on the verticals and offset on the horz.. the ca the way i used it held amazingly well, i had to predrill holes in all the joints 2/3 of the way and then tap a bank pin in all the way with a small hammmer and not one joint came apart through all this. ive used thin ca as a primer and then medium before it sets and its always worked well for me, again it depends on what i'm doing but this seemed the best way to go. i still use titebond, gorilla glue and expoxy as well as ca in all my builds. BTW thanks for the posting info, somtimes like everyone else i show moments of pure brillance and others i'm not to brite at all, thanks again.