the acro is a lorenz plane, dunno if they make it anymore, can't find it on the site. 3 of their "rhapsody" planes were just picked up for Jason at the worlds. If things work out, he'll be flying them with Hacker C50 acro motors and thunder power lithium cells. the rhapsody's are "current" style planes for pattern and/or 3D (they have a specific 3D version but that's not what he got). With the lithiums and the C50 acro's, power is somewhere between 140 and 170 glow, total weight should be just under 10 lbs (they're a touch lighter than the acro-2's) and flight time is close to 1/2 hour per charge. i think the website witht he rhapsody's is www.f3alorenz.de