those homemade PVC tires are just about the cheapest way to get into the drift scene, they are for slow paced drifters or begginners, the flux system you will need alot of practice or some A-drift tires from HPI which run about $20 a set of 4. the flux system is about a 9turn motor to much speed for a begginner and PVC tires. If you going to use PVC tires 17t, 19t or even the silver can motor will drift with those tires without a problem. here's a link to my drifter using the mamba max 5700. follow the red car

[link]http://sirccc.com[/link]