Yea I see you are in no rush to be part of the solution.

If you think about it they are all copied off of one original idea. They are all centrifugal flow turbines. Maybe some different electronics, material blends is about all. So in a sense the "they copied" crap is an excuse.

Show me the company that makes a true axial flow and I'll be the first to say they didn't copy anyone else, until they they all have copied the first one no matter who made it.

I've heard 5 positive JJ stories to every one negative.