Scott, no worries, I'm not one for protracted debates and I have learned my lesson like many members about "sim debates". I had no intention of continuing to reply to counter point after another. I know from previous posts that dbcisco (like others) did not appreciate it that version one did not continue to evolve and expand uninterrupted under Horizon. It made me upset too. I hope that version two now independent of Horizon (and it's ongoing future updates) will put all that in the past.