Wow Gryphon, you rock!...
I always(for now) use throtle control but I am always suprised to see how cool my 16/25/2 is when it lands.
One thing that confuses me a bit is that my motor comes direct from Czech Republic and it seems to have slighlty different specs from the US version. I got it from icare-rc.com
If you look at this:
http://www.megamotor.cz/v3/script/de...ge_id=lang_eng
<table cellspacing="1"> <tbody> <tr> <td>16/25/2</td> <td>4-16/3-6</td> <td>2470</td> <td>40</td> <td>/2-5</td> <td>7,5</td> <td>2</td> <td>115</td> <td>

</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
you will notice that the kv is 2470 and not 2650 like everyone is saying.
Thanks for those amazing responses!!! and awsome data collection