Ok Luis you have left me no choice, and I apologize to everyone that has been following this thread. When you say that I am not well informed you make it sound like I do not know what is going on down here and I can assure you that is not the case. Luis (Netbox)was the distributor for CA models in the US for some time when they were making many different models along with the pattern type airplanes.

Apparently 2 or 3 years ago (maybe less) Luis ordered a container of airplanes and they arrived late and missing parts. Marcelo flew to Fl. to try to smooth things over and paid for the additional items to be sent air to Luis. Now was this Marcelos fault ABSOLUTELY. Luis then continued to be the distributor for quite some time and continued to profit off of the F3A models. He always talked of ordering containers but never did it was always small amounts which is understandable in this business.

So now because of the first container problem Luis is a little more cautious but loves the Edge 40% and decides to order a container of them only he want to do things a little different. He decides that he will pay 25% up front and then some more when there is an instruction manuel and then a little more at the time of shipping and then the rest after they are delivered. Now again since I was in the airplane business I know a little about this so hear me out. To build a container full of 40% airplanes you need a lot more then 25% (approx $5000.00 and change) no matter where you are China or otherwise. So for Marcelo to accept that in the first place was not the smartest thing to do. So in my opinoun was Marcelo wrong again ABSOLUTELY. Also that saying "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" comes to mind. However shortley after Luis sent that money he needed two Passports right away so Marcelo sent them without any payment because he had the deposit from the Edge order. Having gone through all of the paperwork when I came here so I know this for a fact.

At that point Marcelo had approx $2500.00 of Luis's money for a containor of 40% Edges. Now as I am sure you can imagine that is not exactley the capital needed to produce that quantity of planes. Anyhow along with this Luis crashed his Edge because it just broke in half in mid air for know reason and needed another one. (I again, owned a business and trust me there is always a reason) Now I cannot be exact on the date of this because after speaking to Luis the time frames very greatly. One time it was 3 months ago the next time its 6 months so I am not really sure but he did need a plane.

About this time I was back in the US and received a phone call from Luis. This was the first time ever he called me even after I had repeatedly tried to get a hold of him a year or so earlier with no luck. He told me this big long story about how he had paid in advance in full for a container of edges and Marcelo had all his money. He then went on to tell me how great a job we were doing now and that he wishes us the best. To be honest with you guys I almost backed out of the whole Visa deal and if it weren't for Miriam I probably would have. I gave Luis my word that when I got back down to Argentina I would do my best to help him out which I did.

After flying back down I immediately spoke to Marcelo about this explaining that somehow someway we had to fix this. (I was still thinking Marcelo owed Luis $30,000-$40,000) Marcelo showed me all the transactions and when I found out the grand total was approx. $2500.00 it felt like a huge weight was lifted off my shoulders. Now hindsight be 20/20 I probably should of severed my contact with Luis simply because of the lies he told me on the phone but I did not.

I pulled 6 Edges off the shelf and stopped all the work on F3A planes in the factory to get the ARCs finished. I was in constant contact with Luis and had it arranged to give him these models in order to smooth things over. This was good for a couple days but then he decided he wanted an Onas instead. I then moved his Onas to the front of the line (just behind my personal Visa which I had to have for Phoenix) I again spoke with him on the phone several times and via email but he changed his mind again.

This time he demanded my personal Visa or his money back. Now at that time in the world there was a grand total of one Visas and I had built it from start to finish so I quoted him $7500.00 ready to fly with everything. Of course that was to much so he wanted his money back. I arranged for that and had Todd Blose immediately pay Luis instead of us the money for his Visa. As soon as Luis was contacted by Todd he changed his mind again but then it was to late he was getting the money, which he did. At that point I was finished with Luis as I had spent most of my time here going in circles for him with no end in sight.

He continues to call and email Marcelo daily for an edge. I had to tell Luis not to contact me anymore because I recognized there is no end to this. So Marcelo, worried about past history has been trying to help Luis out because Luis always says, he just wants to be friends. I have tried to explain to Marcelo it will never end and that he really just wants "a friend" but have stayed out of it until now.

When I saw his first post I refrained from going into a ton of detail, but after his second one suggesting that I do not know whats going on here I had to, and for this I apologize. I have spent the last 4 months of my life working 7 days a week 12-15 hours a day here to help Marcelo turn his business around and we have.

Luis is not the only one that has had a problem in the past but the other people we have addressed and been able to make things right at a great exspense, because it was just the right thing to do. So now everything is out in the open and this is what I hope everyone sees by this. Marcelo is not perfect, I am not perfect (far from it) but we have worked extremely hard to become one of the best pattern plane manufactures in the world and I believe we have reached that goal. It gives me great satisfaction hear from people like Tony F., Dave Snow, Mike Mueller, Mike Klein, Todd Blose, etc things like "the planes they have received are the nicest they have ever owned." That says a lot ot me because between just those 5 we have close to 150 years of modeling experience.

Sorry to drag this out but I just could not let it go we have worked to hard.

Chip