No Problem, Mediaman.
I was trying flatspins with it yesterday, but couldn't quite get them either......I have my high rates on the "3D" settings in the manual, but my flying buddies say I need more throw....I think they're right.....I'm going to start increasing the high rate throws and see what happens....the initial spin when entering the flatspin isn't tight enough with my current throws....

and BTW, you're the 2ND person that told me a duraplane trainer will flatspin!!!