Cheers Bryan, yeah i've watched those dvds numerous times and also set the car up the same as ian oddies harm, but it just doesn't work for me in a car park, i have gone softer with the shocks and its easier to drive so maybe need to go a bit softer again. good point about checking the chassis is square, thats something i haven't checked, everything else is sweet as, i will check it out and let you know my findings.