i fly real airplanes and everyone i have ever flown (Super Decathlon, Super Cub, Warrior III, Archer II, 182 Seaplane) you can give them all full rudder and the nose will not drop, but my R/C (Duraplane) giving it full rudder yields a dive :stupid:

this is due to adverse yaw or dutch roll(i dont remember which), as the rudder moves the nose left or right, we will say left, the right wing moves through the air faster than the left, producing more lift which drops the left wing, and after a while the horizontal component of lift overtakes the effect of the vertical component and the airplane drops.

wow that was long