Do a search on the Concept 30 line of helicopters. Specifically the Concept 30 DX. on that helicopter the swashplate DID NOT MOVE up and down like the helis we have today. The collective imputs were archieved by moving the washout base up and down, the swasplate remained stationary. THAT is a Non-CCPM helicopter. I believe there are a few 400 clones that use a similar design, so you might be able to find one and see the difference.

Rafael
[/quote] Rafael said it here. The swashplate doesn't move up and down, the washout base does. I also looked up the Raptor 50 titan kit on thunder tiger's page and the elevator and the aileron are a push pull system, which would not allow the swash to move up n down. If you look at the pic that shows the ail servo you'll see daul linkages coming off the servo going to two pivot arms then to the swash. Now if a servo went to move the swash up n down there would be an equal force put againts the ail linkages and you'd have issues. The same would apply to the elevator. The walkera creata 400 uses one servo for pitch and they call it a NOR or non ccpm. Align calls it HPM I believe, but yet again non ccpm, not mccpm