yeah your right on all that you said, and its about time we stand up to these people , I cant even belive that RC Universe lets them advertise on here , dont these people realize that Nitro is doing what their doing to us , tell yua one thing Ill never buy another thing from Nitro Planes, thats for sure. Thinking of doing a black ball list web site for RCer's so they can get the proper customer service that we and most beginers need . As costly as this hobby can be and the way the economy is right now you would think that companys out there would be very eager for us to give them our money , Ive wrote I dont know how many posting on Nitro planes and still havent heard from the company.