well Ray has discovered something I have known for a few months.

It would appear that many of the ARF's are made in the East and badged with the big names.

I've seen the Black Horse ARF's, Graupner, H-9, Kyosho etc and many or them are so similar to others of similar type that you can only conclude they are the same airframe.
Hence I don;t bother buying top name ARF's. I'll stick to Black Horse, Seagull, Phoenix. Green Model China, CMP and Pilot RC.

In fact if you examine the Pilot RC, and a few other large scale aerobatics airframes inthe 30cc to 100cc class the resemblance in airframe member shape, method of manufacture, glue used and glue positioning tells me that these are all made in one factory.

At least some of the higher end companiestry to hide this by giving you an original colour scheme. Others don't bother.

e.g. look at the 30cc and 50cc Sbach ARF's...
strange that all the manufactures only offer them in two colour schemes which are identical across the brands..