I used the se as a second plane, with the G2 sim. but, I have wrecked it 3 times, the third was torque rolling, engine quite, flat spin into the trees, VERY BAD...had budget, went to flying a trainer style home built mustang, VERY FAST, but very forgiving..taught me flying skills, QUICK....also flying home built fun fly, kind of like se but slower and less forgiving.....NOW I am flying 60 size Extra 300L.....WOW, a challange...like going from a VW to a Ferrrai...anyway, if it is anything, I have been flying for one year now...Extra is a handful and a HUGE, HUGE.... Challange, especially to land, have to keep air on those thin wings, but take your time, it sux tearing up 200$ of ARF !!