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Old 01-24-2006, 09:54 PM
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How do you even SEE your plane at 1500 ft? I hope its large!
You have to keep it almost directly overhead when that high, and it looks real small.
So how do you know if it's flying level, or even that it's flying properly at all? Seems pretty risky... Are you monitoring the video from the ground to keep bearings?
Old 01-24-2006, 10:23 PM
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OK guys, here are the altitudes, A10FLYER, not too bad on the guesses!

TWINTUROSTANG, you're right on pics 5 and 8, real close.

Thanks....that was fun......and luck! I think I'll go play the powerball tomorrow!!!
Old 01-24-2006, 11:17 PM
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How do you even SEE your plane at 1500 ft? I hope its large!
You have to keep it almost directly overhead when that high, and it looks real small.
So how do you know if it's flying level, or even that it's flying properly at all? Seems pretty risky... Are you monitoring the video from the ground to keep bearings?
The plane is a Multiplex Twinstar II and is a very stable platform IMO. It is trimmed out to fly wings level and best glide angle with power off. The plane will climb with power on. All I do is keep the plane flying straight in a particular direction and it should be climbing with power on. I usually do not monitor the video while in flight, if I do, it's only for a second or two as it is very easy to lose your visual on it. I do not fly beyond visual range, I want to know where my plane and equipment is at all times.
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OK guys, here are the altitudes, A10FLYER, not too bad on the guesses!

TWINTUROSTANG, you're right on pics 5 and 8, real close.

Thanks....that was fun......and luck! I think I'll go play the powerball tomorrow!!!
Glad you enjoyed it, it was fun putting the pictures out there and seeing the guesses.
Old 01-24-2006, 11:32 PM
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I've been hearing pretty good things about the twinstar--any idea what load it can lift?
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I've been hearing pretty good things about the twinstar--any idea what load it can lift?
What does your camera weigh?
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I'm not sure. My guess would be about 5oz but I don't have a scale handy and I'm bad at weight estimations
Old 01-25-2006, 11:21 AM
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It weighs 6 oz. in the carrying case.
Old 01-25-2006, 11:22 AM
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Ah--good to know
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The plane is a Multiplex Twinstar II and is a very stable platform IMO.
Plus, I'm sure the 56" wingspan is a big help also. Most of the electrics are in the 35-40" wingspan range. A larger wing is much easier to see at longer distances, or higher altitudes.

BTW, I've got a Twinstar II on order with Tower. For now, I'm going to use that as my AP platform. Later on, I may make a custom fuselage and mate it to the twinstar's wing.
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It should be able to lift 6 oz. The camera, transmitter, pan & tilt servos (one micro, one std), the osd board, wind speed turbine, and all the extra wiring should add up to about 6 oz.
Old 01-25-2006, 08:37 PM
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Slagburn....8000? Where are you by the way?


...edit.....Uhh.....2500agl?
Old 01-26-2006, 12:21 AM
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No- I think it was more like 7000. There's virtually no air traffic at that site and altitude. The heavies coming into DEN are quite a ways off, and the light planes stay east of the lake or have quite a bit more height to clear the hills.
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Slag,
I have Googled this thing to death......WHERE is it?? The clues you gave lead me to believe it is in the southwest part of the metro area.

Next ?....do I know you? I get the feeling I do......
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Horsetooth Rock.

I don't think we've met.. but.. who knows?
Old 02-14-2006, 08:14 AM
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Here is a great video of a helo hovering with GPS positioning and real time OSD showing altitude and a whole lot more. Assuming this altitude display is dead on, my past estimations of my flight altitudes were way off.


hovering helo with real time OSD
http://www.carvecsystem.co.uk/Kestre...vationDemo.wmv
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Which way were your estimates off? High, low, or both?
Old 02-14-2006, 08:41 PM
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Which way were your estimates off? High, low, or both?
I thought I was alot higher than I was just due to inexperience in estimating. Judging by my video and the one with that altimeter reading. I feel like a donkey now. Hee Haw! [sm=lol.gif]
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Skyhigh...seems we always think we are higher than we really are.

Slag....Ft Collins way? I haven't had time to check up that way. I was thinking suthwest Denver area.
Old 02-22-2006, 11:32 AM
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This may have been covered somewhere else, but wouldn't it make sense for the "budget conscious" to use the Estes Altitude Tracker (typcially used for model rockets) to give an estimate of rotorcraft altitude?

I'd prefer the electronics, but someone's got to have a reason to put their trigonometry to use.



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To get a feel for the distance to the plane:
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Old 03-10-2007, 08:20 PM
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Does anyone know who makes the OSD board mentioned in post #45 of this thread?

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Well, I have been estimating since I've been flying and finally used the trick with the football field described above. I had a conversation with someone in another forum that seemed to think that I was not nearly as high as I thought so I explained to them that I have always estimated, like most do, since I don't have an altimeter until I discovered and used the stadium method with the scale of the helo to the known 300 ft distance. So, I wanted to hear other more experienced pilots' opinions to see how far off I was. I think at the highest point I was at least at 200 ft. I'm going to find out how tall the stadium lights are at our other baseball stadium because they are tall as hell and I have easily cleared them before.
Most stadium light poles are 80'. WOW it feels good to be able to have some input once in a while!
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Most stadium light poles are 80'. WOW it feels good to be able to have some input once in a while!
Is that for high school stadiums or professional sports stadiums because the ones I referred to have got to be more than 80ft.
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Most stadium light poles are 80'. WOW it feels good to be able to have some input once in a while!
Is that for high school stadiums or professional sports stadiums because the ones I referred to have got to be more than 80ft.
I guess I should have been more specific. High school, college, and most all of the concrete poles (on the ground) are 80'. As soon as you get farther out from the actual field, say more than 15' the pole gets higher. Baseball field lights are usually close to the field where football light poles are farther away. A football stadium pole is on top of the stands so they are a bit higher, as much as 125'.

There are 2 pictures. One is with 2 80' light poles at a football practice facility. The other is a 60' observation tower next to an 80' pole. Sorry you can not see the top of the pole but take my word for it, it is there.

We flew at this location yesterday evening and got some great video. The turf is great for landing as it is nice and soft I will post some editing video later as you can see where we are over the light poles at what I would expect to be about 125'-150'...Denny
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