Hi all new guy here. Love the forums, lots of good info here.
I am looking for A good text on aircraft design, including the math on general flight parameters, Im one of those strange peoples who realy get into this (being able to crunch the numbers and see how well it should work). Any sugestions would be apreciated, thanks in advance for your help.
Dave

"Basics of R/C Model Aircraft Desing" by Andy Lennon is a very good choice.

There's a Martin Simmons book as well. Can't remember the title at the moment, sorry.

Martin Simons book - "Model Aircfraft Aerodynamics"

For a little heavier treatment try:
"Fundamentals of Sailplane Design" by Fred Thomas

hi, i'm new to this forum as well, but if you are looking at different designs for modeling aircraft, there is this one design which i am currently working on at adapting from a rubberband powered plane, to an R/C plane, the website is http://www.aircrash.org/burnelli/pdf/mod_oa1.pdf the thing about this design is that the fuselage actually produces lift, as you are into number crunching you can work out that a plane which has a fuselage that supports itsself can carry a higher payload for the same weight.

David

I'm familiar with the Burnelli lifting body fuselage, and noticed the resemblance to this design here:

Thanks to Ben at http://www.midrivers.com/~ben/

thanks Cannonball for that that is definately an interesting design and is usng the burnelli lifting body design principle, but one thing though, it is an interesting story how the lifting body design was/ is superior to planes that we use today, but they were developed many years ago, to learn more about these wonderful flying machines and the conspiricy behind them go to www.aircrach.org i'm not a conspiricy theory nut but i just liked the story and the designs, make up your own mind

David

I'm actually quite familiar with Burnelli's designs, having already pursued the design story of the First Airliner, built in 1919 by Al Lawson, here in Wisconsin. Burnelli worked with him as a draftsman on that aircraft, and it was built in 5 months, that summer. Are you familiar with that aircraft?

It was the first time that passengers were carried within an open, two-row cabin, also the first time that pilot and co-pilot sat side by side with dual controls at the front of that cabin. Notice the cockpit window is curved and full height, floor to ceiling.

My favorite Burnelli aircraft was the CBY3, built in 1946, one of the best styled versions of the lifting-body concept, for the time. Check out these links, if you haven't already: http://www.aircrash.org/burnelli/neam1.htm
http://www.aircrash.org/burnelli/ch_cby3.htm

Here's a shot of the interior of the First Airliner, a biplane with a 93 foot wingspan! This shot was taken during one of the first flights, from Milwaukee to Chicago. If anyone is interested, I have many more shots of this historic aircraft.

yeha, i'm familia with the burnelli story, sisce 2 years ago when i read an article in a newspaper magaznie, and i did a search and found www.aircrash.org, at the time i was studying aviation and his designs intrigued me, i saw it as a logical design, that i swhy i am planing on making the model, just so i can see if it works, and also for a chalenge, (when i'm finished i'll send in pics to www.aircrash.org so keep an eye out for them)

Hey guys thanks for the reply's, Ill check those out. Found lots of good info right here on the forums, this really is A great place. Again thanks

Hey sorry about the late reply, but i got both books (about 2weeks ago) Basics of R/C Model Aircraft Desing" by Andy Lennon and Martin Simons book - "Model Aircfraft Aerodynamics" amazon had a combo package for both. realy good books. Want to thank you all agan for the advice. Just one comment if you just want or can aford only one i would sugest Andy Lennons Basics of R/C Model Aircraft Desing, but both are realy good.
I think they prety well got me set and answered my questions. One more tip to any other newbies like me just hang out here and read ask questions ect. lots to learn right here for free. Agan thanks guys!

hi, guys i am searching all over for the book "Basics of R/C Model Aircraft Design" by andy lennon and so far to no avail, for all you guys who have it could you give me the ISBN number from the book so i can find it? thanks

eagle4

Andy Lennon's book is ISBN 0-911-295-40-2 and is available through Model Airplane News at http://www.rcstore.com/rs/general/li...id=8&catego=BO