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Old 09-22-2004 | 11:28 PM
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do you think it is possible to make a flying cheese wedge fly?
like a wedge out of a round of cheese? long taper, rounded off at the end, flying wedge end first, no wings or stabs, using twin ducted fan thrust vectoring to control/stabilize the aircraft? you would need 3 gyros obvioujsly and the aspect ratio would be crazy. do you think it was possible?
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We've had some luck and lots of fun with r/c 'paper airplanes'....scaled up about 2 1/2 times from a regular delta shaped paper glider with elevons for control. We take them up under the wing of a .60 powered tug and drop them. They're entirely controllable, although they demonstrate why high performance sailplanes don't look like that!
It might be possible to fashion a 'cheese wedge' as a sort of biplane paper glider with airflow through the middle. I'm not sure if it would work if it were full depth, but, hey, it's worth a try!
Old 09-24-2004 | 06:01 PM
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i am talking about a solid wedge with the long taper in the front and the rounded part at the back, with no wings or anything, jsut using the wedge as an airfoil and a wing, and thrust vectoring for stability.
Old 09-27-2004 | 07:45 PM
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I'm building my first.....so I have no idea....

BUT...

two things.....I don't see how it would create lift... without serious modification to the shape...

and.... if you get it to go.. You will make a fortune selling them in Green Bay!!
Old 09-27-2004 | 08:36 PM
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it would have to generate lift by AOA alone. think it could be done? should i test it in a park flyer first? and where should the CG be?
Old 09-28-2004 | 09:33 AM
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You're going to have to make some concessions to aerodynamics if you want it to fly and be controllable. You can't try to account for everything with thrust vectoring. You could look at some of the lifting body designs from the 60's. Some of them were realtively wedge shaped, but they had control problems primarily associated with pilot induced pitch oscillations. I think they may have also had some rolling issues.
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Here is a way to cheat n do it
have a mouse chew out the upper surface -leaving the sides and the base. result=flat plate w/ twin rudders.
put a engine up front
use elevons at the rear - try cg about 30% - It will fly fine.
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When building the model, make sure you don't use limburger cheese. I hear the flying characteristics really stink!
Old 09-28-2004 | 05:44 PM
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in theory if i were to put the cg at the cp i should not have induced pitch issues and as long as it has thrust i should have compete control, no?

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