Can you believe this flies?
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RE: Can you believe this flies?
Hello Dick, I'm a Roy Cough fan too. I have built the dragonflyer, roto thing and am now building the Martian Space ship. I got the plans from Bill Northrup a couple of years ago. I love his stuff and like you am in a continuous pursuit of plans of his. He was a prolific designer and published all kinds of places so it is a tough job finding plans. Any help in that regard I would greatly appreciate it.
I'm going to make a few changes and would like your input on it. As you can see, I got tired of sticks and went to Blue Foam; why not? I'm also going to blue foam for the outer strakes reinforced with either balsa or carbon tow.
I also put in elevons for control and made a foam cover. The entire tail section is held with two nylon machine screws.
I'm going to put in an LA 40 instead of 25. I don't think the weight will be much different, but I will have more power and as I under stand it, rocks and the Martian Spaceship have about the same glide.
Once I get this thing to fly, probably a couple of weeks, I think I will make another one, same size, but entirely blue foam and use and AXI 2814 for power.
Arthur
I'm going to make a few changes and would like your input on it. As you can see, I got tired of sticks and went to Blue Foam; why not? I'm also going to blue foam for the outer strakes reinforced with either balsa or carbon tow.
I also put in elevons for control and made a foam cover. The entire tail section is held with two nylon machine screws.
I'm going to put in an LA 40 instead of 25. I don't think the weight will be much different, but I will have more power and as I under stand it, rocks and the Martian Spaceship have about the same glide.
Once I get this thing to fly, probably a couple of weeks, I think I will make another one, same size, but entirely blue foam and use and AXI 2814 for power.
Arthur
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RE: Can you believe this flies?
I believe the Zeppelins and other "lighter than air" craft regularly flew with negative buoyancy.
Skyship 600? used vectored thrust to take off (with a run) and elevators controlling altitude.
It would be very limiting to use ballast or to vent gas to control altitude. They commonly used
and still use angle of attack to produce the required positive or negative lift.
Note, the do not have any lifting strakes along their length.
old git - - - - - aka John L.
Skyship 600? used vectored thrust to take off (with a run) and elevators controlling altitude.
It would be very limiting to use ballast or to vent gas to control altitude. They commonly used
and still use angle of attack to produce the required positive or negative lift.
Note, the do not have any lifting strakes along their length.
old git - - - - - aka John L.
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RE: Can you believe this flies?
I belive even current Blimps actually maintain negative buoyancy. I had the chance to watch a couple lift off locally, and both times I remember people on the lines only holding the ships from being blown around on the ground, till other ground crew grabbed hold of the side rails on the cabin and "Bounced" the ship up and down several times against the LG strut. The airship obviously was eventually released on the rebound which got it off the ground, at which time the pilot kicked what looked like full UP elevator and gunned the engines for a high angle of attack climb-out.
First time I saw it was with a Navy blimp taking off from our former Naval Reserve facility in the early 50s, and the second time was a Goodyear blimp taking off from Cleveland's Aviation High School parking lot during a Cleveland Air Show sometime in the mid 80s.
I also read this was a normal procedure in an old Air Progress magazine.
First time I saw it was with a Navy blimp taking off from our former Naval Reserve facility in the early 50s, and the second time was a Goodyear blimp taking off from Cleveland's Aviation High School parking lot during a Cleveland Air Show sometime in the mid 80s.
I also read this was a normal procedure in an old Air Progress magazine.
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The construction article was spread over two issues of Model Builder magazine - August and September 1991. I have both issues sitting in front of me right now. It's correct that Bill Northrop should have the plans.
As others have said, it is Rough Clough's 1954 "Anti-Grav" Martian Spaceship redesigned for R/C by Skip Ruff. It's a 53 year old design!
Plans are MB #8911 Martian Spaceship.
David
As others have said, it is Rough Clough's 1954 "Anti-Grav" Martian Spaceship redesigned for R/C by Skip Ruff. It's a 53 year old design!
Plans are MB #8911 Martian Spaceship.
David
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw068hNnsY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zqt8KPVf4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWlEUv47_qc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMRFE36fMR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zqt8KPVf4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWlEUv47_qc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMRFE36fMR4
Last edited by foodstick; 05-30-2016 at 11:50 AM.
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Kind of funny to consider that the original designer, Roy Clough, went through at least 7 iterations of this design before he published it...As a Free Flight model! In April, 1954. Wanted to build it when I bought the issued, never had the confidence in my building to try it.