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Old 10-04-2007 | 03:51 AM
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this might seem like a stupid question but is it possible to build a bi-flying wing, and has it being done before. i dont know a great deal about aerodynamics but get the feeling something like this would just tumble in the air
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Do you mean two wings set up like a byplane ,but like a flying wing? If so , I don't see why not if set up right.
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It has been done in a full-scale aircraft: see http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/dunne.html
Old 10-04-2007 | 11:10 AM
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There is an Aeromodeller plan for a Dunne wing fee flight model.
Old 10-04-2007 | 11:28 AM
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thats the kind of thing i meant, like a bipe with no tail maybe a bit more modern. would it work as a slope soar or would the top of one wing and the bottom of the other be in dirty air. can anyone think of any advantages or disadvantages to this setup
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was thinking maybe 2X zagi style fixed together
Old 10-04-2007 | 01:18 PM
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That would be a drag farm. It will work, but poorly.
Old 10-04-2007 | 04:40 PM
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It would definetly work best as a powered model. Any biplane format generates more drag for the area than the same area monoplane.
Old 10-04-2007 | 07:43 PM
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I don't know about electrics, but there are glow powered flying wing bipes. Here are a couple by Claude Vest in Indiana. All he flies are flying wings.
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Here's a link to a photo of the Easy Riser biplane hang glider/ultralight that was popular in the late 70's. It was designed by Larry Mauro and the kits were sold through his company, UFM. I built one while in college and flew it a few times as a Hang Glider. After a nasty crash while "ground skimming" it I sold it and bought a more conventional rogallo wing glider that I flew for many years.

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[link]http://www.delta-club-82.com/bible/photo.php?id_aile=701&langue=en[/link]

Old 10-14-2007 | 02:10 AM
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There was a bridge engineer glider pilot, whose name I can't remember, who figured out how to brace the wings of a biplane against eachother. Otto (o#o) Lilienthal apparently didn't get the news in time to save his life. Since then, biplanes have been much lighter than similar monoplanes. For models, though, the lower Reynolds number is a big disadvantage, and the drag of the wires and struts is always a big disadvantage at high speed.
Since Germany didn't finish any aircraft carriers and even biplanes are a lot faster than torpedo boats, the Ferry Swordfish had a fine record in WWII, being better at flight deck landings and takeoffs than a monoplane.

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