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Canard_Lover 11-30-2004 08:13 PM

Need some advice!
 
Hey I need some help! I decided to try to mate several types of planes to make a super-plane... you know, synergy... and whatnot.

I wanna make a canard pusher triplane autogyro! :D

I thought some of you may have experience with a plane like this that could help me out!

Thanks a bunch you guys!

I've got a general layout in me head and I'll try to draw it up to post here.

going vert 11-30-2004 08:24 PM

RE: Need some advice!
 
I think you're on to something. Are you going to kit or ARF it?

Yellow Jacket 11-30-2004 08:32 PM

RE: Need some advice!
 
Do you have any rough sketches of what you have in mind? If you do, post them and we can go from there.

Canard_Lover 11-30-2004 08:33 PM

RE: Need some advice!
 
only if you do it Drew?

Here in Uruguay we don't have much resources for making kits to sell to US.

When it flies to me liking I will provide plans for all!!!!

going vert 11-30-2004 08:57 PM

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maybe - post the design and some videos and I might be interested.

Canard_Lover 11-30-2004 09:04 PM

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Ok here's a preliminary drawing that i just put together. Please let me know your thoughts all!

Jleyland 11-30-2004 09:09 PM

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AWESOMO!!!!!!!

Yellow Jacket 11-30-2004 09:14 PM

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You're going to need quite a few aileron servos. I hope you can get them cheap in Uruguay

Canard_Lover 11-30-2004 09:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: Yellow Jacket

You're going to need quite a few aileron servos. I hope you can get them cheap in Uruguay
Ailerons on middle wing only, what say you? Not enough power?

Yellow Jacket 11-30-2004 09:24 PM

RE: Need some advice!
 

ORIGINAL: Canard_Lover


Ailerons on middle wing only, what say you? Not enough power?
It might work. What are you going to build it out of? I'd look into using some active composites for the wings. They would be light and you could use piezoelectric actuators to induce wing warping on the top and bottom wings.

going vert 11-30-2004 09:25 PM

RE: Need some advice!
 
is that all 3mm depron? What kind of motor are you running? How is the KE w/ that big heli blade up there. Do you have any videos? I'll bet that thing is fun to fly.

Yellow Jacket 11-30-2004 09:33 PM

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Lover,

How big is this aircraft going to be?

Do you have dimensions of this thing? The canard seems large compared to the wings.

Canard_Lover 11-30-2004 09:35 PM

RE: Need some advice!
 

ORIGINAL: Yellow Jacket
It might work. What are you going to build it out of? I'd look into using some active composites for the wings. They would be light and you could use piezoelectric actuators to induce wing warping on the top and bottom wings.
Mr. Jacket, I think your idea is very very very complicated! [:'(]

Unless you want to make piezoelectric wing for me!!!! ;)

Yellow Jacket 11-30-2004 09:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: Canard_Lover


Mr. Jacket, I think your idea is very very very complicated! [:'(]

Unless you want to make piezoelectric wing for me!!!! ;)
Lover,

Hmm. You might want to look into thrust vectoring then. It's not as complicated and I think it will increase manueverability.

Canard_Lover 11-30-2004 09:40 PM

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It iwll probably be built out of foam unless Y. Jacket makes me wings

Size is not made yet

Canard_Lover 11-30-2004 09:41 PM

RE: Need some advice!
 

ORIGINAL: Yellow Jacket
Hmm. You might want to look into thrust vectoring then. It's not as complicated and I think it will increase manueverability.
Thrust vectoring!!! WOW, I like the sound of that! But i fear tailweight will be too much.

Yellow Jacket 11-30-2004 09:45 PM

RE: Need some advice!
 

ORIGINAL: Canard_Lover


ORIGINAL: Yellow Jacket
Hmm. You might want to look into thrust vectoring then. It's not as complicated and I think it will increase manueverability.
Thrust vectoring!!! WOW, I like the sound of that! But i fear tailweight will be too much.
Lover,

Add some lead to the nose. You're wing loading will go up, but I think with a triplane canard autogyro, it won't be a problem.

Canard_Lover 11-30-2004 10:00 PM

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where should balance sir yellow???

going vert 11-30-2004 10:58 PM

RE: Need some advice!
 

ORIGINAL: Yellow Jacket


ORIGINAL: Canard_Lover


ORIGINAL: Yellow Jacket
Hmm. You might want to look into thrust vectoring then. It's not as complicated and I think it will increase manueverability.
Thrust vectoring!!! WOW, I like the sound of that! But i fear tailweight will be too much.
Lover,

Add some lead to the nose. You're wing loading will go up, but I think with a triplane canard autogyro, it won't be a problem.
Lead to the nose, on a foam airplane. Are you serious? Are you talking about a couple OZs or a few micro grams?

canardlover 12-02-2004 06:14 PM

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Hi there brother, nice name...:D..you have. Personally I would skip the autogyro "fan" at the top and increase wing area(s) a bit, I think your design is interesting enough without it. Reminds me of the "Bumblebee".
My worry too is your ship will come out tail-heavy unless you pack all the gear(and some lead probably) in the nose or elongate the nose a bit. Keep us posted please and good luck....Cheers/Harald

Mike James 12-02-2004 07:58 PM

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Here you go...

Yellow Jacket 12-02-2004 11:09 PM

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Looks good Mike.

Canard_Lover 12-03-2004 09:44 AM

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Nice work Mike! :)


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