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Old 11-30-2004 | 08:13 PM
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Hey I need some help! I decided to try to mate several types of planes to make a super-plane... you know, synergy... and whatnot.

I wanna make a canard pusher triplane autogyro!

I thought some of you may have experience with a plane like this that could help me out!

Thanks a bunch you guys!

I've got a general layout in me head and I'll try to draw it up to post here.
Old 11-30-2004 | 08:24 PM
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I think you're on to something. Are you going to kit or ARF it?
Old 11-30-2004 | 08:32 PM
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Do you have any rough sketches of what you have in mind? If you do, post them and we can go from there.
Old 11-30-2004 | 08:33 PM
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only if you do it Drew?

Here in Uruguay we don't have much resources for making kits to sell to US.

When it flies to me liking I will provide plans for all!!!!
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maybe - post the design and some videos and I might be interested.
Old 11-30-2004 | 09:04 PM
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Ok here's a preliminary drawing that i just put together. Please let me know your thoughts all!
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AWESOMO!!!!!!!
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You're going to need quite a few aileron servos. I hope you can get them cheap in Uruguay
Old 11-30-2004 | 09:19 PM
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ORIGINAL: Yellow Jacket

You're going to need quite a few aileron servos. I hope you can get them cheap in Uruguay
Ailerons on middle wing only, what say you? Not enough power?
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Ailerons on middle wing only, what say you? Not enough power?
It might work. What are you going to build it out of? I'd look into using some active composites for the wings. They would be light and you could use piezoelectric actuators to induce wing warping on the top and bottom wings.
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is that all 3mm depron? What kind of motor are you running? How is the KE w/ that big heli blade up there. Do you have any videos? I'll bet that thing is fun to fly.
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Lover,

How big is this aircraft going to be?

Do you have dimensions of this thing? The canard seems large compared to the wings.
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ORIGINAL: Yellow Jacket
It might work. What are you going to build it out of? I'd look into using some active composites for the wings. They would be light and you could use piezoelectric actuators to induce wing warping on the top and bottom wings.
Mr. Jacket, I think your idea is very very very complicated! [:'(]

Unless you want to make piezoelectric wing for me!!!!
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Mr. Jacket, I think your idea is very very very complicated! [:'(]

Unless you want to make piezoelectric wing for me!!!!
Lover,

Hmm. You might want to look into thrust vectoring then. It's not as complicated and I think it will increase manueverability.
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It iwll probably be built out of foam unless Y. Jacket makes me wings

Size is not made yet
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ORIGINAL: Yellow Jacket
Hmm. You might want to look into thrust vectoring then. It's not as complicated and I think it will increase manueverability.
Thrust vectoring!!! WOW, I like the sound of that! But i fear tailweight will be too much.
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ORIGINAL: Canard_Lover

ORIGINAL: Yellow Jacket
Hmm. You might want to look into thrust vectoring then. It's not as complicated and I think it will increase manueverability.
Thrust vectoring!!! WOW, I like the sound of that! But i fear tailweight will be too much.
Lover,

Add some lead to the nose. You're wing loading will go up, but I think with a triplane canard autogyro, it won't be a problem.
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where should balance sir yellow???
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ORIGINAL: Canard_Lover

ORIGINAL: Yellow Jacket
Hmm. You might want to look into thrust vectoring then. It's not as complicated and I think it will increase manueverability.
Thrust vectoring!!! WOW, I like the sound of that! But i fear tailweight will be too much.
Lover,

Add some lead to the nose. You're wing loading will go up, but I think with a triplane canard autogyro, it won't be a problem.
Lead to the nose, on a foam airplane. Are you serious? Are you talking about a couple OZs or a few micro grams?
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Hi there brother, nice name.....you have. Personally I would skip the autogyro "fan" at the top and increase wing area(s) a bit, I think your design is interesting enough without it. Reminds me of the "Bumblebee".
My worry too is your ship will come out tail-heavy unless you pack all the gear(and some lead probably) in the nose or elongate the nose a bit. Keep us posted please and good luck....Cheers/Harald
Old 12-02-2004 | 07:58 PM
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Here you go...
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Old 12-02-2004 | 11:09 PM
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Looks good Mike.
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Nice work Mike!

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