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touch and go 04-26-2007 08:21 AM

What is this plane
 
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Can anybody tell me what kind of plane this is?

Sport_Pilot 04-26-2007 08:26 AM

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Combat version of the T-6. What is that anNA 50?

Sport_Pilot 04-26-2007 08:47 AM

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Here it is.

http://www.airventuremuseum.org/coll...P-64_NA-50.asp

LowFlyBye 04-26-2007 10:12 AM

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ORIGINAL: Sport_Pilot

Combat version of the T-6. What is that anNA 50?
It is not a T-6 or T-6 variant. This is a P-64 which was made by North American so it has some similar looks, but a completely different plane.

The "combat" versions were actually gunnery trainers and were in fact SNJ, Harvard, & T-6 (B) models with various armament setups consisting of a fixed, syncronized 30 cal. on the top of the cowling, another fixed 30 cal. on the inboard leading edge of the right wing (some can be found on the left), and one removable, rear facing, aim-able 30 cal. that could be operated by the backseater by swiveling the rear seat aft.

They were primarily used for gunnery training, but some did in fact see combat.

Most of the "combat versions" have the rear gun removed today in the interest of weight and space, but you will occasionally find one at the airshows with the modified rear canopy and the aft gun still in place.

Sport_Pilot 04-26-2007 10:22 AM

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This is a P-64 which was made by North American so it has some similar looks, but a completely different plane.
Wrong, anybody familiar with that plane can tell you it shares a large number of parts. It is in fact a T-6 with a turtle deck, shorter wings, and larger engine. Not an entirely differant airplane. The stock T-6 had the capability of using real guns and needed no modification, just the installation of the guns. However it is not really good for anything much above training with guns, though used as an attack aircraft in some contries it was a poor choice. The P-64 and NA-50 are the same plane and is considered the combat version of the T-6, a T-6 with guns is not actually good for combat, too slow and underpowered.

LowFlyBye 04-26-2007 11:58 AM

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Sport_Pilot


This is a P-64 which was made by North American so it has some similar looks, but a completely different plane.
Wrong, anybody familiar with that plane can tell you it shares a large number of parts. It is in fact a T-6 with a turtle deck, shorter wings, and larger engine. Not an entirely differant airplane.
I am very familiar with the T-6 and have quite a few hours in 2 different versions including the SNJ-5B, SNJ-6. I will admit that I am not as familiar with the P-64, but if memory serves me correctly there were only a half dozen of them ever built and only 1 survivor remains today. There are however many replica models built from modified T-6 which is obviously what is captured in the above picture. This is no different than the majority of the various Kate and Val aircraft seen today.

Just because aircraft look similar or share a few parts does not make them variants, or the same aircraft. Case in point...RV-8 -vs- Harmon Rocket -vs- F1 Rocket. They look a lot alike, have some interchangable parts, but are very different aircraft.

Read the information in your own link before contradicting yourself...

"The North American P-64 is often referred to by Warbird lovers as an “export fighter version of the AT-6 Texan”, North American’s ubiquitous WWII trainer. In actuality, the P-64 is similar to, but not the same as the AT-6. The most significant differences include a shorter wing, the aircraft length, and a more powerful engine. The parts for these aircraft, though similar, are not interchangeable. "


Sport_Pilot

The stock T-6 had the capability of using real guns and needed no modification, just the installation of the guns. However it is not really good for anything much above training with guns, though used as an attack aircraft in some contries it was a poor choice.
I think I stated that it was primarily a gunnery trainer, but did see some combat.



Sport_Pilot
The P-64 and NA-50 are the same plane and is considered the combat version of the T-6, a T-6 with guns is not actually good for combat, too slow and underpowered.
No argument there.

Sport_Pilot 04-26-2007 12:39 PM

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Dispite the article, my understanding is that most parts except the changed airframe parts and engine parts are indeed interchangeable. Besides that the aircraft is a direct modification of the T-6, not a new design borrowing from the T-6 as you imply.

Chad Veich 04-26-2007 12:45 PM

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The airplane pictured in the original post is neither a P-64 nor an NA-50 but is in fact a modified Harvard. The link that "Sport Pilot" posted is to that of the EAA's P-64 which is the only surviving example of its type but is not the same aircraft posted by "touch and go". Their have been quite a few Texans/Harvards/SNJ's modified to resemble a P-64 or NA-50. More info on this airplane and others can be found here:
http://www.warbirdinformationexchang...d1d65b63c873ee

Taildragger726 04-26-2007 08:47 PM

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It is a replica of a NA-50 owned by John Shell in western NC. I was based at the same airport with Dr.Shell for years. Has a geared 1340 and dual controls. He is in the final stages of completing a "Super Six" for the colection.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...DEC4462WGA.jpg


aak1120 05-14-2010 03:43 AM

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Too bad he sold that NA-50 to fund the Super-6. Would have been nice to have both.

buzzard350 05-28-2010 05:11 PM

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I think that's a Seversky P-35 painted in military colors. Or at least a close derivation of it. Those lines seen in the photo are so familiar because this plane was the starting point for the design of the Consolidated P-47.... Seversky was one of the firms 'consolidated' into the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation

Chad Veich 05-30-2010 02:34 AM

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Not a Seversky, see the previous replies.

Moretrim 05-31-2010 07:50 PM

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That is sweet !


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