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Old 02-02-2012, 08:05 AM
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ORIGINAL: bogbeagle

Technically, the pumpkins wouldn't be flying ... so you'll have to seek the authorisation of some Government body, other than the FAA.

Surely you have a Federal Bureau which regulates the use of pumpkins? There's probably a couple of dozen people, in a quiet office somewhere, just waiting for a call.





(over here, we have the Potato Council ... a taxpayer-funded body which ''seeks to serve and develop the potato-growing industry''.)
Does the Potato council condone the use of potato guns?
Old 02-02-2012, 08:38 AM
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Potato guns are illegal, according to Section 5 of the 1968 Firearms Act.

I'm not kidding, either.
Old 02-02-2012, 11:54 AM
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Potato guns are illegal, according to Section 5 of the 1968 Firearms Act.

I'm not kidding, either.
What's wrong with shooting a potato?
Are they endangered?
Old 02-02-2012, 11:58 AM
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Potato guns are illegal, according to Section 5 of the 1968 Firearms Act.

I'm not kidding, either.

You know you're stuff and yes they are!

It is basically a cannon/(poor mans RPG) made of pvc that uses aqua-net hairspray as the propellant and it will fire a potato over a half mile with great accuracy! It could probably take out a ultralight or Piper cub if it got into the wrong hands!!!
Old 02-02-2012, 02:53 PM
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ORIGINAL: flyinjrc74

ORIGINAL: bogbeagle

Potato guns are illegal, according to Section 5 of the 1968 Firearms Act.

I'm not kidding, either.

You know you're stuff and yes they are!

It is basically a cannon/(poor mans RPG) made of pvc that uses aqua-net hairspray as the propellant and it will fire a potato over a half mile with great accuracy! It could probably take out a ultralight or Piper cub if it got into the wrong hands!!!
No they are not.


[/quote] Department of the Treasury
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms
Washington, DC 20226
As defined in section 921(a) (3) of Title 18, United States Code (USC) the term "firearm" means
    [*](A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive;[*](B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon;[*](C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or[*](D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.[/list]
    As defined in 26 USC subsection 5845(f) (2) the term destructive device includes any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may readily be converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosive or other propellent, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter, except a shotgun or shotgun shell which the Secretary or his delegate finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes; and (3) any combination of parts either designed or intended for use in converting any device into a destructive device as defined in subparagraphs (1) and (2) and from which a destructive device may be readily assembled. The term 'destructive device' shall not include any device which is neither designed nor redesigned for use as a weapon; any device, although originally designed for use as a weapon, which is redesigned for use as a signaling, pyrotechnic, line throwing, safety, or similar device; surplus ordnance sold, loaned, or given by the Secretary of the Army pursuant to the provisions of section 4684(2), 4685, or 4686 of title 10 of the USC; or any other device which the Secretary of the Treasury or his delegate finds is not likely to be used as a weapon, or is an antique or is a rifle which the owner intends to use solely for sporting purposes.
    It is unlawful for anyone to make or possess a destructive device which is not registered in accordance with the provisions of the National Firearms Act.
    We have previously examined that certain muzzle loading devices known as "potato guns." These potato guns are constructed from PVC plastic tubing. They use hair spray or a similar aerosol substance for a propellant, and have some type of spark ignitor. We have determined that these devices, as described, are not firearms provided that they are used solely for launching potatoes for recreational purposes. However, any such devices which are used as weapons or used to launch other forms of projectiles may be firearms and destructive devices as defined.
    Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms
    Firearms Technology Branch, Room 6450
    650 Massachusetts Avenue NW
    Washington, DC 20226
    Sincerely yours,
    (signature)
    Curtis H. A. Bartlett Acting Chief, Firearms Technology Branch[/quote]
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ORIGINAL: AugerDawger


ORIGINAL: flyinjrc74

ORIGINAL: bogbeagle

Potato guns are illegal, according to Section 5 of the 1968 Firearms Act.

I'm not kidding, either.

You know you're stuff and yes they are!

It is basically a cannon/(poor mans RPG) made of pvc that uses aqua-net hairspray as the propellant and it will fire a potato over a half mile with great accuracy! It could probably take out a ultralight or Piper cub if it got into the wrong hands!!!
No they are not.


Department of the Treasury
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms
Washington, DC 20226
As defined in section 921(a) (3) of Title 18, United States Code (USC) the term ''firearm'' means
    [*](A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive;[*](B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon;[*](C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or[*](D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.[/list]
    As defined in 26 USC subsection 5845(f) (2) the term destructive device includes any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may readily be converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosive or other propellent, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter, except a shotgun or shotgun shell which the Secretary or his delegate finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes; and (3) any combination of parts either designed or intended for use in converting any device into a destructive device as defined in subparagraphs (1) and (2) and from which a destructive device may be readily assembled. The term 'destructive device' shall not include any device which is neither designed nor redesigned for use as a weapon; any device, although originally designed for use as a weapon, which is redesigned for use as a signaling, pyrotechnic, line throwing, safety, or similar device; surplus ordnance sold, loaned, or given by the Secretary of the Army pursuant to the provisions of section 4684(2), 4685, or 4686 of title 10 of the USC; or any other device which the Secretary of the Treasury or his delegate finds is not likely to be used as a weapon, or is an antique or is a rifle which the owner intends to use solely for sporting purposes.
    It is unlawful for anyone to make or possess a destructive device which is not registered in accordance with the provisions of the National Firearms Act.
    We have previously examined that certain muzzle loading devices known as ''potato guns.'' These potato guns are constructed from PVC plastic tubing. They use hair spray or a similar aerosol substance for a propellant, and have some type of spark ignitor. We have determined that these devices, as described, are not firearms provided that they are used solely for launching potatoes for recreational purposes. However, any such devices which are used as weapons or used to launch other forms of projectiles may be firearms and destructive devices as defined.
    Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms
    Firearms Technology Branch, Room 6450
    650 Massachusetts Avenue NW
    Washington, DC 20226
    Sincerely yours,
    (signature)
    Curtis H. A. Bartlett Acting Chief, Firearms Technology Branch[/quote]

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    What does your answer have to do with making them legal in the UK?
Old 02-02-2012, 05:50 PM
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What does your answer have to do with making them legal in the UK?
It was in reply to a post from a guy in Michigan.

Old 02-02-2012, 05:58 PM
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ORIGINAL: warningshot

What does your answer have to do with making them legal in the UK?
It was in reply to a post from a guy in Michigan.

I remember reading a story in the paper here in MI where a guy had a potato canon in his car on a traffic stop and was arrested by the MI State Police for possessing it. I don't recall that it was because he was aiming or shooting it while driving which he was not so I was lead to believe it was ILLEGAL. Maybe you could dig a little deeper and see if MI has a law against them????

Personally I like the 3 man slingshot! Now that is a lot of fun! Water balloons, gourds, baseballs, large rocks.... P.S., don't use eggs! lol

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