Maximilionalpha

Not FPV, but almost just as much fun!..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_QKHC68PhA

AllModesR/C

You mean 72 mhz actually has a longer range than 2.4 ghz?

Maximilionalpha

It also depends on the type of antenna that you decide to use. You get better range using a clover-leaf and or, a circular antenna, than you do using a standard, whip antenna.

countryshooter

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opps yes but not by much. the farthest I got was 2 miles since I live in NJ there is not much to see

AllModesR/C

That's awesome. I am assuming you still had radio communication with your aircraft that far away?

Rob2160

I think you can get more than a mile out of 2.4. I have tried it myself to over 3000 meters. (almost 2 miles) and this video shows much greater distances.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lxLJOLr7xQ

Maximilionalpha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNPOIeBKPJQ

init4fun

And there ya have it , video proof that ya don't need FPV to be flying over highways and well over 400 feet .

countryshooter

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yes was using UHF Dragonlink

Sport_Pilot

I don't think there is a rule against flying over highways (buildings and others property yes, but not sure if that includes highways), but even so many may be doing just that but not aware they are. It would appear that he is trying to keep from the roads. And with the wide angle camera he may have though it appears he did not. But that appears to be an unoccupied service road.

countryshooter

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you guys are so lucky out west you can fly to your hearts content such nice scenery here in the northeast well NJ there is nothing to see or can fly without causing trouble

littlecrankshaf

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Or that those that pay $58 to the model airplane church always practice abstinence. LOL

init4fun

Heck , even if there were no AMA , I still wouldn't feel comfortable flying over that highway or buildings . Maybe I'm just spoiled , but here in lovely eastern Massachusetts I have several fields remote enough that I don't even need to overfly the road into the field , much less any surrounding large roads as seen in the first video posted at the top of the page . I have all the trust in the world in MY piloting , YOUR piloting , and even Maximillion's piloting , , , , But I have VERY LITTLE trust in the machinery itself , to be taking the responsibility of flying over roads and buildings like that .

Again , That is my comfort level , no AMA doctrine involved

Maximilionalpha

You're surrounded by farmland. Do you mean to tell us that you can't get permission to fly at one of those fields? Or, better yet, go over to Long Branch and fly at the beach, out over the ocean. I used to fly my stunt kite there, years ago, but mostly in the late fall and early winters.

littlecrankshaf

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I am with you 100%...neither would I...and its not about whether or not insurance would cover my rear end...or whether if it is lawful or not.

countryshooter

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yea I flew around farmland all flat lol once you go out you see the same thing plus I'm by the airforce base no fly zone and I'm afraid if I fly too high they might come after me. 400' isnt that high I guess the grass is greener on the other side. Mainly if it ever goes down here miles away ppl might not like it.

N410DC

Though this is a good idea, it's difficult to implement, given the fact that model aircraft sales are no longer limited to hobby shops. It would be easy to convince HobbyTown USA to implement this policy. Much harder to get WalMart to implement a policy such as this at their 4,000+ stores.

Most agree that there is currently no law that either permits or prohibits these activities, though the FAA's recent interpretation of federal law explicitly outlaws all of these activities. So, if you engage in these activities, and if the FAA takes action against you, you will be compelled to hire an attorney and defend yourself. After you spend thousands of dollars in attorney fees to defend yourself, you might be found not guilty.

The AMA's safety code does prohibit flight ". . .directly over unprotected people, vessels, vehicles or structures. . ." So, the AMA safety code does not prohibit flight over a road, as long as there are not vehicles on the road.

init4fun

Ya know , in all honesty , Im not some old killjoy (or buzzkill or whatever) so get that right out of your thoughts . I do know that the very next major city next to Boston , Quincy Massachusetts , has a city ordinance against the flying of any remote controlled aircraft within the city limits from about the 1970s on right through to today . The reason for the ban is unknown to me but I always figured someone musta done something pretty dumb with one to have made that be the rulemaking agenda at the next city meeting . And that was way back then ! I can easily see in those videos all kinds of people and reasons why I wouldn't fly where you are and believe me if that RC link fails at the wrong time and you create a wreck on one of those roads or hit a pedestrian near one of the many buildings not only will you bear the trouble of the law but you'll screw it up for all the other flyers in your area , as you and your plane's damage become the next reason of outrage at your town's next meeting . Think it can't happen ? Just ask the residents of Quincy Mass. how legal it is to fly RC there ........

Sport_Pilot

Which video is it that people see flying over roads and property? I do not see anything in the last two video's, though one may have crossed over a service road. By service road I mean one that is not driven over by anybody but the green keeper or maintenance people. Which obviously had no vehicles early in the morning. Maybe some have not flown in an airplane, but if you see a road in your windscreen you are not over it or even close. You have to look out your side window and look straight down. It looked like he mostly kept the plane over the park, though maybe strayed out for a short time. I bet we have all done that a thousand times without even knowing we had strayed out over other property.

Maximilionalpha

Forgot that McGuire afb, was still opened. Thought years ago, that had been changed over to a prison?

FLAPHappy

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Sport, This person is flying directly over buildings, highways, Freeways and unprotected people. the video shows that clearly. Yes he has a wide angle lense on the camera, This Sir is exactly what this thread is about. Oh, I know mr Super MAX will contribute to defending his stupid actions, but never the less, he will keep doing it, regardless. This is the type of person that, will ruin this hobby by actions just like this. Some other posters asking how far, how high can he fly? That is the main point of this discussion. They also will contribute to distruction of this hobby when a Fatality happens. It will happen sooner or later, just wait

AllModesR/C

You realize that full size airplanes fly over your head everyday right? There have been R/C related fatalities already. The one I remember off the the top of my memory is a guy got his skull sliced open by an R/C Helicopter a few years ago. Compared to a gaint scale gasoline plane or a nitro helicopter the amount of damage Max's styrofoam glider can do is very small.

chuckk2

Flying over the ocean or gulf can get the DEA's attention, not to mention other law enforcement.

littlecrankshaf

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I decided to watch the videos myself...seemed consistent with typical park/school yard flying to me. I didn't see anything that made me think he was trying to be reckless...

Just wondering, is it park flying that you are against??? or what...as this wasn't an FPV video...

binns aero

Just crawled out from under the bed thought it was safe. Hope they don't turn this guy in! I still think the feds are on my trail after crasin my foamy into a seven-eyed purple striped salimander on state park property.