Dues increase coming? 1 million spent on government relations.....
08-18-2015, 11:48 AM
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08-18-2015, 12:17 PM
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The more things change...the more they stay the same.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...eases-ama.html
Same common themes presented here. Probably will be the same responses in 10 or more years, or the next time higher dues are put into place.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...eases-ama.html
Same common themes presented here. Probably will be the same responses in 10 or more years, or the next time higher dues are put into place.
08-18-2015, 01:04 PM
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The more things change...the more they stay the same.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...eases-ama.html
Same common themes presented here. Probably will be the same responses in 10 or more years, or the next time higher dues are put into place.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...eases-ama.html
Same common themes presented here. Probably will be the same responses in 10 or more years, or the next time higher dues are put into place.
Mike
08-18-2015, 01:43 PM
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08-18-2015, 01:45 PM
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The more things change...the more they stay the same.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...eases-ama.html
Same common themes presented here. Probably will be the same responses in 10 or more years, or the next time higher dues are put into place.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...eases-ama.html
Same common themes presented here. Probably will be the same responses in 10 or more years, or the next time higher dues are put into place.
08-18-2015, 02:18 PM
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Expensive is a relative term. You can make as many excuses as you want, but maybe folks would simply rather be spending their time/money doing something else. Perhaps something they find more rewarding. What was different about this year's fun fly versus last year's fun fun? What was new and innovative? How as the audience engaged? One definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expect to get different results.
08-18-2015, 02:26 PM
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Neither event was to gain members it was for community relations. We provided information a fun experience and showed off some of our better pilots and their bigger planes. at the county airport event. At our local fun fly we were all about community relations Good Food for sale and a $3 parking donation. and a large Break Even Raffle. All the proceeds over $950 went to the local boy Scouts as they and their parents did the cooking and parking.
Same here ... We set up a tent with sims a Raffle for an Apprentice had guys explained quads and we flew everything all day at the county airport where not closed but the main runway was closed for construction. No new members from that. Then a couple of weeks ago we held our well advertized yearly fun fly. Very well attended both flyers and spectators and not one new member. Why because our hobby is expensive, takes dedication, ECT (Place list here). Even though the ama may have between 150K and 175K members, ask your self how many are really committed to the hobby. in the 5 clubs to witch i belong form 20 to 300 members maybe 25% are really dedicated. Look at the club where U fly and I;ll wager it the same guys doing 99% of the flying. There are a million reasons from work to honey do lists and just down right apathy for not participating a lot.
Don't forget even at 175k members the AMA is a very insignificant group of individuals.
Besides it looks like the T-Storms didn't materialize and the front is just coming into the other side of the state so maybe i'll go put in a couple of flights.
Don't forget even at 175k members the AMA is a very insignificant group of individuals.
Besides it looks like the T-Storms didn't materialize and the front is just coming into the other side of the state so maybe i'll go put in a couple of flights.
08-18-2015, 02:35 PM
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Neither event was to gain members it was for community relations. We provided information a fun experience and showed off some of our better pilots and their bigger planes. at the county airport event. At our local fun fly we were all about community relations Good Food for sale and a $3 parking donation. and a large Break Even Raffle. All the proceeds over $950 went to the local boy Scouts as they and their parents did the cooking and parking.
Same here ... We set up a tent with sims a Raffle for an Apprentice had guys explained quads and we flew everything all day at the county airport where not closed but the main runway was closed for construction. No new members from that. Then a couple of weeks ago we held our well advertized yearly fun fly. Very well attended both flyers and spectators and not one new member. Why because our hobby is expensive, takes dedication, ECT (Place list here). Even though the ama may have between 150K and 175K members, ask your self how many are really committed to the hobby. in the 5 clubs to witch i belong form 20 to 300 members maybe 25% are really dedicated. Look at the club where U fly and I;ll wager it the same guys doing 99% of the flying. There are a million reasons from work to honey do lists and just down right apathy for not participating a lot.
Don't forget even at 175k members the AMA is a very insignificant group of individuals.
Besides it looks like the T-Storms didn't materialize and the front is just coming into the other side of the state so maybe i'll go put in a couple of flights.
Don't forget even at 175k members the AMA is a very insignificant group of individuals.
Besides it looks like the T-Storms didn't materialize and the front is just coming into the other side of the state so maybe i'll go put in a couple of flights.
08-18-2015, 07:29 PM
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Never is a long time, a lot can happen. My very accurate prediction, now I'll go buy a lotto ticket.
08-19-2015, 04:24 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGtqVLMGV74
For all who believe that everything is just wonderful and there's no problem. Why not just pack up and move along nope he had to prove just how stupid he is although some may think he's a hero.
Mike
For all who believe that everything is just wonderful and there's no problem. Why not just pack up and move along nope he had to prove just how stupid he is although some may think he's a hero.
Mike
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08-19-2015, 05:10 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGtqVLMGV74
For all who believe that everything is just wonderful and there's no problem. Why not just pack up and move along nope he had to prove just how stupid he is although some may think he's a hero.
Mike
For all who believe that everything is just wonderful and there's no problem. Why not just pack up and move along nope he had to prove just how stupid he is although some may think he's a hero.
Mike
08-19-2015, 05:11 AM
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Anybody watch that video? The guy wants to be confrontational. A good example of an idiot quadcopter flyer. So because of idiots like that, we have to pay more for our license. Where is the justice?
08-19-2015, 05:13 AM
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08-19-2015, 05:16 AM
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LoL...is that the best you can do to try to drive a point home, and it's not even on topic for the thread? Drop it in "another drone pilot does it again".
FYI who are the people that think everything is wonderful and there is no problem? Haven't seen 'em in this thread. FWIW the posts in the guys Youtube thread were more against him than for him.
FYI who are the people that think everything is wonderful and there is no problem? Haven't seen 'em in this thread. FWIW the posts in the guys Youtube thread were more against him than for him.
08-19-2015, 05:21 AM
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Where though do you arrive at the conclusion that our dues increase is solely attributed to that kind of flier? You're aware of how long it had been since the dues had been adjuster previously?
08-19-2015, 05:25 AM
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LoL...is that the best you can do to try to drive a point home, and it's not even on topic for the thread? Drop it in "another drone pilot does it again".
FYI who are the people that think everything is wonderful and there is no problem? Haven't seen 'em in this thread. FWIW the posts in the guys Youtube thread were more against him than for him.
FYI who are the people that think everything is wonderful and there is no problem? Haven't seen 'em in this thread. FWIW the posts in the guys Youtube thread were more against him than for him.
Mike
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08-19-2015, 05:31 AM
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You can pull up a thousand videos on Youtube of people flying outside of the AMA suggested parameters, not sure how that makes any of us "losers" in the grand scheme of things.
08-19-2015, 05:34 AM
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I didn't watch the whole video...5 minutes in was enough hearing him ramble on. He lacked common sense, and appeared to be looking for a fight, because of his "rights". from what I saw the cops were reasonable with him. If he broke the law, he should be held accountable and punished, no question. It's a great example of how something shouldn't be done.
08-19-2015, 06:14 AM
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You're never going to be able to stop individuals like that so please post your point in the "other" thread so we can stay on topic here.
08-19-2015, 06:17 AM
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AMA already won the fight. They have have a published safety code in place that all members agreed to follow when they joined the AMA.
You're never going to be able to stop individuals like that so please post your point in the "other" thread so we can stay on topic here.
You're never going to be able to stop individuals like that so please post your point in the "other" thread so we can stay on topic here.
"We have had to spend
more than $1 million on
government relations to keep
model aviation free of onerous
restrictions and regulations.
We have recently hired a
public relations fi rm to help
promote model aviation in
the media and to limit bad
press caused by irresponsible
operations by nonmembers."
What's not on topic and who are you to decide? Since the video I linked too shows a irresponsible operator what's the problem? Please explain why it's off topic. It's exactly why were (the AMA) is spending the money isn't it? If you feel it's inappropriate feel free to report the post.
Mike
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