Are you ready to register your aircraft?
11-03-2015, 06:05 PM
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Me and Crispy ( or whatever his real name is) have and thing going on he says it's black and I say it's white. About the only thing we agree upon is .......... well nothing.
Mike
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11-03-2015, 08:17 PM
#853
Nobody does anything voluntarily.
You're posting here right?
Let me simplify this for you. Anyone who's following the rules now will never encounter a problem later.
Cool so accidents don't happen, who knew.
As a matter of fact I support them.
You support breaking the law?
As far as the DOT who knows what they'll come up with. One things for sure they'll create a bureaucratic nightmare that will spin out of control as all government deals do. Enforcement will be a joke.
The joke will be on those paying the fines. I'd venture a guess that any laws requiring registration become part of the AMA safety code. As we know today, the safety code is enforceable by CDs at events. Perhaps that means that CDs can enforce the registration requirements (whatever they may be).
Now please feel free to be the first in line to register stuff you have owned for years.
I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
Mike
You're posting here right?
Let me simplify this for you. Anyone who's following the rules now will never encounter a problem later.
Cool so accidents don't happen, who knew.
As a matter of fact I support them.
You support breaking the law?
As far as the DOT who knows what they'll come up with. One things for sure they'll create a bureaucratic nightmare that will spin out of control as all government deals do. Enforcement will be a joke.
The joke will be on those paying the fines. I'd venture a guess that any laws requiring registration become part of the AMA safety code. As we know today, the safety code is enforceable by CDs at events. Perhaps that means that CDs can enforce the registration requirements (whatever they may be).
Now please feel free to be the first in line to register stuff you have owned for years.
I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
Mike
11-03-2015, 08:55 PM
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11-03-2015, 08:57 PM
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11-03-2015, 09:02 PM
#856
As we know today, the safety code is enforceable by CDs at events. Perhaps that means that CDs can enforce the registration requirements (whatever they may be). .... The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
I would love to see the AMA enforce more than it does, as I agree it would add much needed legitimacy to their claims that they have a safety management system. I just don't see them doing it -- not in the organizational culture.
11-04-2015, 05:24 AM
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No FEE to register model aircraft, how long will that last? There is no such thing as free registration, somewhere your tax dollars are being lifted out of one your pockets and paying someone to be on the receiving end and enter this information into the system. TINSTAAFL If accidents happens, politicians will use FEES to limit the number of model aircraft available, make them too expensive to own.
11-04-2015, 05:42 AM
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"Originally Posted by Chris P. Bacon 
As we know today, the safety code is enforceable by CDs at events. Perhaps that means that CDs can enforce the registration requirements (whatever they may be). .... The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them."
A Contest Director runs a event not the day to day operation of the field. Do you really think rouge drone operators will be showing up at the local flying field?
Mike
As we know today, the safety code is enforceable by CDs at events. Perhaps that means that CDs can enforce the registration requirements (whatever they may be). .... The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them."A Contest Director runs a event not the day to day operation of the field. Do you really think rouge drone operators will be showing up at the local flying field?
Mike
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11-04-2015, 05:52 AM
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"Originally Posted by Chris P. Bacon As we know today, the safety code is enforceable by CDs at events. Perhaps that means that CDs can enforce the registration requirements (whatever they may be). .... The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them."
A Contest Director runs a event not the day to day operation of the field. Do you really think rouge drone operators will be showing up at the local flying field?
Mike
As we know today, the safety code is enforceable by CDs at events. Perhaps that means that CDs can enforce the registration requirements (whatever they may be). .... The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them."A Contest Director runs a event not the day to day operation of the field. Do you really think rouge drone operators will be showing up at the local flying field?
Mike
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11-04-2015, 05:55 AM
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Chris P. Bacon posted
"You support breaking the law? "
If they are flying observing the AMA safety guidelines how would they be breaking the law? I specifically said "Anyone who's following the rules now will never encounter a problem later."
Mike
"You support breaking the law? "
If they are flying observing the AMA safety guidelines how would they be breaking the law? I specifically said "Anyone who's following the rules now will never encounter a problem later."
Mike
11-04-2015, 05:56 AM
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11-04-2015, 06:02 AM
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The AMA Safety Code is not a guideline, it's a requirement for AMA members. You agreed to it when you signed your AMA membership application. The AMA SC isn't law either. However, the way I see it, FAA registration will become law.
11-04-2015, 06:03 AM
#864
IMO its the FAA's requirement, so their mess, the AMA should not put themselves in a position where the FAA blames them for enforcement.
11-04-2015, 06:04 AM
#865
A very good point! But one that likely will not be decided without a law suit.
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11-04-2015, 07:00 AM
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11-04-2015, 08:14 AM
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"Originally Posted by Chris P. Bacon As we know today, the safety code is enforceable by CDs at events. Perhaps that means that CDs can enforce the registration requirements (whatever they may be). .... The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them."
A Contest Director runs a event not the day to day operation of the field. Do you really think rouge drone operators will be showing up at the local flying field?
Mike
As we know today, the safety code is enforceable by CDs at events. Perhaps that means that CDs can enforce the registration requirements (whatever they may be). .... The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them."A Contest Director runs a event not the day to day operation of the field. Do you really think rouge drone operators will be showing up at the local flying field?
Mike
From: http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/A...de_3-20-15.pdf
A CD is responsible to see that all safety rules and precautions are followed to the letter. Any CDwho knowingly allows an unsafe condition to exist is subject to the loss of his/her CD status.
11-04-2015, 08:36 AM
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[QUOTE/] I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
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Wow.
Of course the FPV advocates do not care how many hoops they have to jump through in order to "legitimize" what they do.
Not only are they willing to do / spend whatever it takes to legitimize their activity but they are also more than willing to see sanctions heaped upon Traditional Radio Control Flyers too.
Whatever it takes to be able to fly with their Space Cowboy Goggles....huh...?
I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
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Wow.
Of course the FPV advocates do not care how many hoops they have to jump through in order to "legitimize" what they do.
Not only are they willing to do / spend whatever it takes to legitimize their activity but they are also more than willing to see sanctions heaped upon Traditional Radio Control Flyers too.
Whatever it takes to be able to fly with their Space Cowboy Goggles....huh...?
11-04-2015, 09:02 AM
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If U look at the AMA CONTEST DIRECTORS GUIDE. I believe that,CD's are required to Enforce the Safety rules no mater what.
From: http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/A...de_3-20-15.pdf
A CD is responsible to see that all safety rules and precautions are followed to the letter. Any CDwho knowingly allows an unsafe condition to exist is subject to the loss of his/her CD status.
From: http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/A...de_3-20-15.pdf
A CD is responsible to see that all safety rules and precautions are followed to the letter. Any CDwho knowingly allows an unsafe condition to exist is subject to the loss of his/her CD status.
A AMA officer has no authority under the law to enforce anything other than the safety rules,
If any individual is abiding by the current safety rules why would any CD interfere?
Mike
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11-04-2015, 09:23 AM
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[QUOTE/] I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
Of course the FPV advocates do not care how many hoops they have to jump through in order to "legitimize" what they do.
Not only are they willing to do / spend whatever it takes to legitimize their activity but they are also more than willing to see sanctions heaped upon Traditional Radio Control Flyers too.
Whatever it takes to be able to fly with their Space Cowboy Goggles....huh...?
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Piggy:
Sorry but I had a big 4 paragraph rebuttal and the Stupid thing ate it.
Just the same U R Wrong Period.
11-04-2015, 09:27 AM
#872
[QUOTE/] I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
Of course the FPV advocates do not care how many hoops they have to jump through in order to "legitimize" what they do.
Not only are they willing to do / spend whatever it takes to legitimize their activity but they are also more than willing to see sanctions heaped upon Traditional Radio Control Flyers too.
Whatever it takes to be able to fly with their Space Cowboy Goggles....huh...?[/QUOTE]
Nicely said!!
Astro
11-04-2015, 09:30 AM
#873
[QUOTE/] I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
I will and have no problem registering my stuff. I've already held a federal license for the past 22+ years. IMHO registration will only add legitimacy this hobby has never had. Many hear have complained repeatedly about rogue drone operators. The best way for us to differentiate ourselves from the rouge drone operators is to set an example by complying with the law. Failure to comply only makes you one of them.
Of course the FPV advocates do not care how many hoops they have to jump through in order to "legitimize" what they do.
Not only are they willing to do / spend whatever it takes to legitimize their activity but they are also more than willing to see sanctions heaped upon Traditional Radio Control Flyers too.
Whatever it takes to be able to fly with their Space Cowboy Goggles....huh...?
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