Are you ready to register your aircraft?
10-19-2015, 07:43 AM
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Guys, don't stick your head in the sand. Having worked for the FAA for some years, you can bet that the agency WILL regulate model aviation in all it's forms. All those who think that it will not affect traditional or us guys who fly for recreational purposes need to wake up. If Drones are the focus now by the agency, how long before the rest of model aviation will come under the scrutiny of the FAA. The AMA has done little to educate the public as to the difference between traditional model aviation and the Drone community. The manufacturers and distributer are only looking at profits and if model aviation goes the way of the Dodo, so what. I can't offer any real solution due to the fact it has gone to far and regulation is inevitable.
10-19-2015, 07:48 AM
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As I said in a prior post, my plan was to renew for 2016. Since the flying I do now doesn't require AMA field (scale type heli flying / .25 size and below electrics), if I don't fly at an AMA field in 2016, it'll be the last year I give them money. No sense paying for something you don't use...especially given that my local AMA field requires an additional $100 membership! That alone nearly pays for 4 gallons of fuel for my .50 heli.
10-19-2015, 08:11 AM
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Your second post answers your first. The AMA had an opportunity 20 or so years ago to shut down, or at least put some control, on the FPV issue an instead stuck it's head int he sand. Then when FPV started to blossom the AMA chose to support it instead of tryng to control it. The FAA is grouping everything under the auspices of the AMA together.
You said in one paragraph, what I have been trying to portray (and advocate for) in various threads here lately.
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10-19-2015, 08:18 AM
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Wow...you don't say? So this has been brewing for 20 years.......20 years. Where has all the outrage been, where have all the suggestions and groundswell of support for excluding FPV/MR been for 20 years. Should we go back and figure out who was running the AMA for the past 20 years and castigate them?
10-19-2015, 08:37 AM
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As expected....they are late starting the meeting! That's big guvment for ya!
10-19-2015, 08:54 AM
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Guys, don't stick your head in the sand. Having worked for the FAA for some years, you can bet that the agency WILL regulate model aviation in all it's forms. All those who think that it will not affect traditional or us guys who fly for recreational purposes need to wake up. If Drones are the focus now by the agency, how long before the rest of model aviation will come under the scrutiny of the FAA. The AMA has done little to educate the public as to the difference between traditional model aviation and the Drone community. The manufacturers and distributer are only looking at profits and if model aviation goes the way of the Dodo, so what. I can't offer any real solution due to the fact it has gone to far and regulation is inevitable.
Are you familiar with the Know before you fly program?
https://www.faa.gov/tv/?mediaId=997
Have you don't anything to educate yourself?
10-19-2015, 08:56 AM
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He sure is, front and center. Second one to make a statement after the main speaker.
Say, anything sound onerous or really problematic for the "traditional" hobbyist? I might have missed it when the live stream was interrupted. I didn't hear the word fixed wing aircraft once. Drone, UAV, sUAS was bantered about though.
Say, anything sound onerous or really problematic for the "traditional" hobbyist? I might have missed it when the live stream was interrupted. I didn't hear the word fixed wing aircraft once. Drone, UAV, sUAS was bantered about though.
10-19-2015, 09:00 AM
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He did mention that AMA members are already instructed in our rules to include our AMA number, in or on our aircraft. Which I find interesting that Rich did bring that up.
It would seem that, (and I am just speculating from what I watched in the conference) there will be a requirement of all R/C aircraft to be registered with certain weight and size
It would seem that, (and I am just speculating from what I watched in the conference) there will be a requirement of all R/C aircraft to be registered with certain weight and size
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10-19-2015, 09:08 AM
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He did mention that AMA members are already instructed in our rules to include our AMA number, in or on our aircraft. Which I find interesting that Rich did bring that up.
It would seem that, (and I am just speculating from what I watched in the conference) there will be a requirement of all R/C aircraft to be registered with certain weight and size
It would seem that, (and I am just speculating from what I watched in the conference) there will be a requirement of all R/C aircraft to be registered with certain weight and size
10-19-2015, 09:10 AM
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Ah but then if he "tells"...he'll get flack for "telling", and not polling the whole membership etc etc. Have we really gotten to a point of nitpicking words? Nothing wrong with "hoping" things go as planned, and as we've repeatedly seen, he's working on the issue.
10-19-2015, 09:14 AM
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Good question...they left that part out didn't they. Didn't see anyone ask that specific question either. Seems like the intent and spirit of the discussion was relating to quads/multi-rotors, but I suspect if someone was stupid enough to slap a FPV system on a foamy glider like a Sky Surfer or Bixler and fly into protected airspace, they would be treated the same as a quad.
Did you hear anything in there that on the face of it was alarming or presents immediate or probable harm to majority of the AMA membership. Honest question. I didn't, but then again this is the first discussion of the "plan" and as I've noted elsewhere, things will chance when they get down to brass tacks.
Did you hear anything in there that on the face of it was alarming or presents immediate or probable harm to majority of the AMA membership. Honest question. I didn't, but then again this is the first discussion of the "plan" and as I've noted elsewhere, things will chance when they get down to brass tacks.
10-19-2015, 09:15 AM
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Then you missed it.
10-19-2015, 09:22 AM
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interesting how they dodged some questions about current users and hobbyists
"Individual consumers not required" said from main speaker
kept going back to "campaign" of registering our drones so users can be tracked
also dodged the question if FAA had the authority to do anything about it
"Individual consumers not required" said from main speaker
kept going back to "campaign" of registering our drones so users can be tracked
also dodged the question if FAA had the authority to do anything about it
10-19-2015, 09:27 AM
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It was pretty clear that they are only avoiding UAV's of "specific weight and capabilities", so not everyone. Also pointed out was the registration is free, and is not a licence, so it's not considered to be regulation. Makes sense to me.
Also, that Q+A was terrible. Seems most of the press had only been informed about the hobby via clickbait and headlines.
I mean, the one reporter going on about "drone police", and the other arguing that carrying a weapon with a drone was legal? Come on, people.
Also, that Q+A was terrible. Seems most of the press had only been informed about the hobby via clickbait and headlines.
I mean, the one reporter going on about "drone police", and the other arguing that carrying a weapon with a drone was legal? Come on, people.
10-19-2015, 09:33 AM
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Also pointed out was the registration is free, and is not a licence, so it's not considered to be regulation. Makes sense to me.
10-19-2015, 09:42 AM
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interesting how they dodged some questions about current users and hobbyists
"Individual consumers not required" said from main speaker
kept going back to "campaign" of registering our drones so users can be tracked
also dodged the question if FAA had the authority to do anything about it
"Individual consumers not required" said from main speaker
kept going back to "campaign" of registering our drones so users can be tracked
also dodged the question if FAA had the authority to do anything about it
I've been in the hobbies for about 30 yrs
I made a valid point that is more up in the air to speak
and for Hobbyists we are cleared, by his own wording
and if one does not register the FAA cannot do anything about it, per the main speakers answers
