400 foot? NOPE
07-27-2016, 08:15 AM
#401
IVO the the heavy traffic in the area of Chino (I've actually flown in/out of there more than a few times), it seems like ample incentive to make sure there isn't a second incident.
07-27-2016, 09:57 AM
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First, it was NEVER and AMA Rule. The AMA Safety Code has always said not to fly over 400 feet within 3 miles of an airport without notifying said airport. So clearly, AMA does not prohibit flying over 400 feet, it only requires you notify an airport within 3 miles of you if you intend to do so.
There is no such rule in the FARs. Part 101.41, which come next month will govern hobby operations, also doe not have anything to say about altitude. So how long do we have to live with this myth?? Where you got the 400 feet 5 miles thing is a mystery.
07-27-2016, 09:59 AM
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I need a GIF of a dog chasing it's tail here.....
First, it was NEVER and AMA Rule. The AMA Safety Code has always said not to fly over 400 feet within 3 miles of an airport without notifying said airport. So clearly, AMA does not prohibit flying over 400 feet, it only requires you notify an airport within 3 miles of you if you intend to do so.
There is no such rule in the FARs. Part 101.41, which come next month will govern hobby operations, also doe not have anything to say about altitude. So how long do we have to live with this myth?? Where you got the 400 feet 5 miles thing is a mystery.
First, it was NEVER and AMA Rule. The AMA Safety Code has always said not to fly over 400 feet within 3 miles of an airport without notifying said airport. So clearly, AMA does not prohibit flying over 400 feet, it only requires you notify an airport within 3 miles of you if you intend to do so.
There is no such rule in the FARs. Part 101.41, which come next month will govern hobby operations, also doe not have anything to say about altitude. So how long do we have to live with this myth?? Where you got the 400 feet 5 miles thing is a mystery.
Last edited by porcia83; 07-27-2016 at 10:03 AM.
07-27-2016, 10:25 AM
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I need a GIF of a dog chasing it's tail here.....
First, it was NEVER and AMA Rule. The AMA Safety Code has always said not to fly over 400 feet within 3 miles of an airport without notifying said airport. So clearly, AMA does not prohibit flying over 400 feet, it only requires you notify an airport within 3 miles of you if you intend to do so.
There is no such rule in the FARs. Part 101.41, which come next month will govern hobby operations, also doe not have anything to say about altitude. So how long do we have to live with this myth?? Where you got the 400 feet 5 miles thing is a mystery.
First, it was NEVER and AMA Rule. The AMA Safety Code has always said not to fly over 400 feet within 3 miles of an airport without notifying said airport. So clearly, AMA does not prohibit flying over 400 feet, it only requires you notify an airport within 3 miles of you if you intend to do so.
There is no such rule in the FARs. Part 101.41, which come next month will govern hobby operations, also doe not have anything to say about altitude. So how long do we have to live with this myth?? Where you got the 400 feet 5 miles thing is a mystery.
07-27-2016, 10:30 AM
#407
Note:
The West end of the E-W Runway has ounce again , after 20 years, been turned back into a corn field.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1374...!3m1!1e3?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1394...!3m1!1e3?hl=en
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07-27-2016, 10:45 AM
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Part 101.41 codifies Section 336 into the Federal Aviation Regulations. It goes into effect August 28, 2016. It was part of the NPRM issued in January 2015. Part 107 also goes into effect in August and will govern predominantly non-hobby operations. However, for those hobbyists who prefer to completely eschew anything to do with the AMA you can operate under 107. I would think that the Commander will take this route since it is one with greater enforcement and compliance guarantees, which is something he has been pushing for.
07-27-2016, 03:29 PM
#411
Part 101.41 codifies Section 336 into the Federal Aviation Regulations. It goes into effect August 28, 2016. It was part of the NPRM issued in January 2015. Part 107 also goes into effect in August and will govern predominantly non-hobby operations. However, for those hobbyists who prefer to completely eschew anything to do with the AMA you can operate under 107. I would think that the Commander will take this route since it is one with greater enforcement and compliance guarantees, which is something he has been pushing for.
07-27-2016, 03:39 PM
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07-27-2016, 04:37 PM
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07-27-2016, 05:23 PM
#414
07-27-2016, 05:33 PM
#415
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The whining about the dues and the cold hard economic analysis as to why an AMA membership isn't for you is well past it's expiration date. Do you stay with the AMA just to be able to continue to complain? I doubt that the complaints would stop if you weren't a member.
So why do you keep paying when you could have oodles and oodles of HK batteries? (off topic a bit I know, sorry...but...fwiw, go with the new Graphene batteries from their Turnigy line.). I thought I saw a review here or elsewhere with rave reviews. Graphene...new technology!
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07-27-2016, 05:42 PM
#416
And yet you keep sauntering up to the alter and pulling out the wallet. The solution is simple of course, just stop. Nobody forces you to pay, certainly not required at the school yard you fly at. And since you pestered the AMA with complaints about pretty much everything they did, they eventually offered you the option of a full refund. You turned them down.
I paid over $150 a year for several years, some to AMA, some to the club. I noted that over time, I seldom flew at the club anymore - choosing instead to fly closer to home where I spent more time flying and less time getting there and back. So I decided to stop the club membership, but maintain AMA to keep open the option to fly once or twice a year as a guest.
I also set for myself a deadline of my next renewal (December 2016), to decide on whether to keep the AMA at all. It's true that AMA offered me a chance to get a full refund, and I declined, because I intended to keep to my self-established timeline for a decision.
I'm now seven months into 2016, and still haven't once flown anything that requires a club field. In December 2016 I'll decide whether continued membership in the AMA is of value.
07-27-2016, 06:06 PM
#417
You've asked that before, and I've answered, but I'll answer again.
I paid over $150 a year for several years, some to AMA, some to the club. I noted that over time, I seldom flew at the club anymore - choosing instead to fly closer to home where I spent more time flying and less time getting there and back. So I decided to stop the club membership, but maintain AMA to keep open the option to fly once or twice a year as a guest.
I also set for myself a deadline of my next renewal (December 2016), to decide on whether to keep the AMA at all. It's true that AMA offered me a chance to get a full refund, and I declined, because I intended to keep to my self-established timeline for a decision.
I'm now seven months into 2016, and still haven't once flown anything that requires a club field. In December 2016 I'll decide whether continued membership in the AMA is of value.
I paid over $150 a year for several years, some to AMA, some to the club. I noted that over time, I seldom flew at the club anymore - choosing instead to fly closer to home where I spent more time flying and less time getting there and back. So I decided to stop the club membership, but maintain AMA to keep open the option to fly once or twice a year as a guest.
I also set for myself a deadline of my next renewal (December 2016), to decide on whether to keep the AMA at all. It's true that AMA offered me a chance to get a full refund, and I declined, because I intended to keep to my self-established timeline for a decision.
I'm now seven months into 2016, and still haven't once flown anything that requires a club field. In December 2016 I'll decide whether continued membership in the AMA is of value.
07-27-2016, 06:20 PM
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You've asked that before, and I've answered, but I'll answer again.
I paid over $150 a year for several years, some to AMA, some to the club. I noted that over time, I seldom flew at the club anymore - choosing instead to fly closer to home where I spent more time flying and less time getting there and back. So I decided to stop the club membership, but maintain AMA to keep open the option to fly once or twice a year as a guest.
I also set for myself a deadline of my next renewal (December 2016), to decide on whether to keep the AMA at all. It's true that AMA offered me a chance to get a full refund, and I declined, because I intended to keep to my self-established timeline for a decision.
I'm now seven months into 2016, and still haven't once flown anything that requires a club field. In December 2016 I'll decide whether continued membership in the AMA is of value.
I paid over $150 a year for several years, some to AMA, some to the club. I noted that over time, I seldom flew at the club anymore - choosing instead to fly closer to home where I spent more time flying and less time getting there and back. So I decided to stop the club membership, but maintain AMA to keep open the option to fly once or twice a year as a guest.
I also set for myself a deadline of my next renewal (December 2016), to decide on whether to keep the AMA at all. It's true that AMA offered me a chance to get a full refund, and I declined, because I intended to keep to my self-established timeline for a decision.
I'm now seven months into 2016, and still haven't once flown anything that requires a club field. In December 2016 I'll decide whether continued membership in the AMA is of value.
07-27-2016, 07:34 PM
#419
So you made a conscious decision to keep the AMA membership for the off chance that you would fly twice as a guest at a field. And then you turn around and show the economics value of the AMA to you, and complain about the dues. Unbelievable! . We'll revisit the issue in Dec but the chances of you not signing back up appear remarkably slim. I'd put a 6 pack on it.
07-28-2016, 03:42 AM
#420
How much cost when the HK batteries blow and burn up in your face? Maybe burns up in flight and the flaming out of control model crash's into an expensive Limo or supercar, and it costs well above your home insurance maximum?
07-28-2016, 03:55 AM
#421
So you made a conscious decision to keep the AMA membership for the off chance that you would fly twice as a guest at a field. And then you turn around and show the economics value of the AMA to you, and complain about the dues. Unbelievable! . We'll revisit the issue in Dec but the chances of you not signing back up appear remarkably slim. I'd put a 6 pack on it.
07-28-2016, 03:58 AM
#422
Perhaps they haven't been a problem even once because I apply the same risk management and technical approach to flying and maintaining my aircraft and equipment that I applied in full scale military aviation? Things like knowing the limits of your equipment, measuring actual demand and comparing against predicted, tracking performance over time, performing regular maintenance, plan - test - verify new applications / uses.
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07-28-2016, 04:04 AM
#423
I would suggest careful matching of battery to motor so that the battery doesn't overheat, as well as good ventilation. Good charging practices. As you could imagine I am no electric motor expert.
07-28-2016, 04:19 AM
#424
Well, I have 20 or so of them already. Flown in everything from electric planks (moderate stress), electric helis (high stress), EDFs / racers (extreme stress), and not a single one of them has "blow[n] and burn[ed] up" in my face.
Perhaps they haven't been a problem even once because I apply the same risk management and technical approach to flying and maintaining my aircraft and equipment that I applied in full scale military aviation? Things like knowing the limits of your equipment, measuring actual demand and comparing against predicted, tracking performance over time, performing regular maintenance, plan - test - verify new applications / uses.
Perhaps they haven't been a problem even once because I apply the same risk management and technical approach to flying and maintaining my aircraft and equipment that I applied in full scale military aviation? Things like knowing the limits of your equipment, measuring actual demand and comparing against predicted, tracking performance over time, performing regular maintenance, plan - test - verify new applications / uses.
Say when you were "maintaining my aircraft and equipment that I applied in full scale military aviation" I'm surprised to see you used parts from non-certified unknown manufacturers.
07-28-2016, 04:20 AM
#425