I have applied for a combat event sanction where SSC and Open A will be flown. I requested a C Class Sanction. The Dist. event approver questioned it saying it should be a A Class. I have scanned the Contest guide on the AMA site and see nothing that cover this.

Any help, and does it really make any difference? Both classes will be run by the rule book.

Cajun[8D]

If it is a by the AMA contest rules event... its class A or AA or AAA.

If its a "club rules" event (Fun flys and "big bird" fly-ins or similar) then its class C.

since you have one portion of your contest following the AMA rulebook event for RC combat... you have a Class A event.

(AA is a BIG event... and AAA is the NATS.)

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BTW.. an A event "reserves" your date(s) over a wider geographic area than a C event... so be happy! there's a larger radius that is excluded from others sanctioning RC combat events on your date... so more people are likely to come to YOUR contest. (thats the whole purpose behind the santion... reserve the date within your area.)

I didn't know this, thanks for the insight!

FHH

As usual, you're close. Check the facts and don't settle for misinformation.

Sanctioned Events. The Academy of Model Aeronautics sanctions the
following types of model activities. Flying activities include A, AA, AAA,
AAAA contests, Class B contests, Record Trials, National, and
International contests that are part of the AMATeam Selection program,
non-rule book events (Class C) including fly-ins, and demonstrations
classified as Class D. There will be no preferences or priorities extended to
any participant(s) on any geographical, organizational, cultural, or social
basis. Any such restrictions automatically relegate the activity to a B
classification. These activities will be conducted by licensed Contest
Directors according to these official regulations.
(Note: The National Aeromodeling Championships (Nats) shall be
identified by a AAAAA contest classification. Only one such competition
may be held in a given year. The Executive Council shall be the sole
determining authority, relative to whether the competition is held, the dates
of its operation, and the location.)

In general, on the same date, there should be at least the following distance
separating contests:
Class A . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100 miles
Class AA . . . . . . . . . . . . . .300 miles
Class AAA or AAAA . . . . 450 miles
(These distances should be scaled down in high population density areas
and should be scaled up in low population areas.)

OOPS[&:] I don't deal with contests enough...

Heck you still don't

Unfortunately, reference the RB and the Membership Manual, the information is sometimes different and the MM has a lot more. AMA although advised and requested to get their ducks in order several times for several years just cannot correct their own in-house confusion. Of course the CD is left to figure it out for himself. Actually the MM is done each year while the RB currently is a 3 yr.ublication. Best to check both.[]
One point Cajun, I believe you are D-VIII. Now he may be a Sandy Man, but let me say one thing: Chief is the best darn Contest Coordinator ever to come along since I was the D-6 CC back in the '70's. He is as fair as fair can be, does it by the book, and will advise you as perfectly as perfect can be. When the Chief speaks, I suggest you listen.

C and Cr events have the same protection as an A contest.

The "Rule-Book" events can be sanctioned using the A /AA etc. classification. For example if you were running ONE RB event and one or more non-RB events you can sanction as "A". RB pg 6 3.2 and Membership Manual Sanctioned Events Section.

The MM has a different listing of some numbers than the RB. If doing a C or Cr event check the '04 MM for the latest additions. Some changes.

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3.3. Class B Contest. Entry is restricted to, or preference or priority is
given to, members of a club or clubs; or to an organization affiliated with
the AMA; or to residents of a confined area, such as a city or county.
3.3.1. Entry to a contest may be restricted on an area, club membership,
or invitational basis. It may also be restricted to the members of a
particular industry or service. It is essential, however, that these restrictions
be spelled out in detail on the application for sanction so that the Contest
Coordinator may decide whether conflicts exist. For example, an armed
forces contest would not conflict with a civilian contest. Similarly, a
manufacturer’s invitational would not conflict with a club contest. These
will be listed as Class B contests. No protected drawing area criteria will
be applied to Class B contests.
3.4. Class A Contest. A contest with unrestricted entry (to AMAmembers)
that contains at least one (1) rule book event.


MM:
3.10. Class C. Non-rule Book Events. An event with unrestricted entry to
AMA members that may or may not offer awards, or an organized get-together
of modelers for fellowship, mutual interests and/or good will, and
may or may not offer a formal flying competition. A Class C event may be
composed of special events, fun-fly events, or any combination thereof. A
description of these events and any special safety precautions must be
included with the sanction application. HQ will communicate any
suggested additional safety requirements. The same date and area
protection applies as A contests. If restricted following the guidelines for
Class B events, it should be listed as “C-restricted.”
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Lots of fireside reading available for the newer CDs. Hey, ain't that what we get paid for???

Thanks HossFly.

I sent Chief a e-mail asking for clarification and never received the courtesy of an answer. Now I am left to wonder if the Sanction Application went in or not. So, I don't share your enthusiasm for this guys abilities.

I also don't share your suggestions for fireside reading. No wonder it's difficult to find CDs. Researching these rules is like reading greek. Personally, I have better things to do than try to intrepret the AMA references.

I am obligated to CD one more event and will then let my CD lapse. It just doesn't seem to be worth the effort.

Cajun[8D]
AMA 174052