Ok, lets pretend its not beer, lets say its red wine. That has alchohol in it, and a study released yesterday indicates that men who drink 4 or more glasses per week have a significantly lower risk of developing prostate cancer (cant remember the exact numbers, it was on the radio news driving to work yesterday). They attribute it to the anti-oxidents and such. I don't think coke will do that.


Actually, this may be the study they referenced. http://www.fhcrc.org/news/science/20.../red_wine.html


edited to add link

The fact remains, alcohol slows the thought processes, reflexes, and judgement. After a relatively small amount is consumed, it also negatively affects the balance and eyesight. It also dehydrates the body. Grape juice, without alcohol, has much of the same antioxodant properties. It doesn't dehydrate. Caffiene dehydrates, but has some effects of clarifying the thought processes and for a short period improving attention span and reflexes. The end result is that alcohol doesn't mix with driving, boating and flying.
A year or 2 ago, there was a study that said red wine is good for the cardivascular system. Most news commentary did not include the findings that ONE 4 ounce glass of red wine a day had a positive effect, two showed almost no increase, and by the third glass, the benefits went away. More was not better.

on that red wine study:

it has since been found that it was not the 1 glass of wine a day that was good for the cadio sys, but rather the lifestyle that allowed one to indulge in 1 glass of red a day.

You guys really don't belive what you read do you? Next study out will just say the opposite. Moderation is the key. Know when to say when. Friends don't let friends fly drunk. -Mike

Does it matter if one's lifestyle and fiscal resources limit one to a glass of Mad Dog 20-20, or a few slugs of Night Train from the customary paper sack?

What happened to AMA rule topic?...........

I think AMA should mandate that chartered clubs provide sufficient ice to keep the members' brewskis chilled.

Abel

'Finish yor beer........there are millions of sober children in India'

I second that...is there any discussion?

Ice what a great idea!!!!!!

Yep! With lots of ice available, body parts cut off by props can be saved and maybe reattached successfuly. Of course, with drinking allowed before and during flying sessions, it won't be only the drinkers who loose body parts.

Got that right!

Really? Always seem to make the girls prettier at closing time?

my only question is why do you drink beer?? If you know it'll give you problems, then why drink? Is the taste really that good? If it tastes as bad as the smell, I can't see why you must drink it. So you can look cool when you were younger???

TTYl,
Andrew T.

But what happens in the morning when the effect has prett much worn off?

Actually Andrew I like the taste of Beer but really do not like the Buzz. Usually just a couple suffices. I think beer smells even better than it tastes. A cold beer on a hot summer day is probably one of the most refreshing experiences I can think of for MYSELF.
I did not drink beer when I was under age.
I cook with beer often, probably more often than drinking it...so does my son...and he rarely drinks beer although he is of age and could if he desired since he is offered beer regularly.

Yes drinking and driving or flying while inebriated is unacceptable if it puts the innocent in danger. But if a fellow wants to drive his car in a contained environment and do donuts and jump busses while drinking to excess I will support his right to do so. The same sentiments for someone or group that desires to do the same flying in the middle of the desert or field far removed from anyone that might be hurt other then those that choose to take the risks.

BUT I do not care to insure those with my dues to AMA if they desire such activities covered at my expense.

I'm glad you brought up missing body parts. The 3 times we have had people stick their fingers and arms in the props, it was the ice from our beer coolers that saved the parts for reattachment. Whenever the need comes up, I will do without my ice for another human being. Not only due we pack ice for the "just in case" but I carry all kinds of stuff to keep the blood off me and to stop the blood from gettin all over everthing. This is all for my fellow R/C'ers -Mike

I would write the rule like we have at our field: no alcohol on field premises at any time. Whatever rule written to permit it under certain circumstances would eventually get bent or have enough "gray" in it that it would be inneffectual . All any of our clubs, or our hobby in general needs, is an occurrence when someone is seriously hurt at the same time alcohol was at the location . The press loves the spectacular, and whether one has to do with the other (injury/alcohol) will be determined by the point of view of someone who knows nothing of the real circumstance, or wants to exercise control of another by regulating them out of existence.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoy a beer as much as the next guy, but I'll wait until I get home. We owe it to our fellow club members and to our flying"brothers" everywhere to exercise civic and personal responsibility. Even if you're a spectator, you need your complete faculties around the field, and don't even conceive drinking so much as a single beer if you're participating. It's no different from flying a full-size plane; you have to be 100% mentally and physically or someone can get hurt.

Get as looped as you want at home, but let's not open any cracks that regulators outside our hobby can get their fingers in. We have enough to worry about from other fronts to keep our hobby alive and well (and sober)

Mike,
In the words of my oldest, TMI sir, TMI!

The study just came out last week, could they have completed the follow up so soon?

Actually, the red wine study was issued a year or two ago. The problem with these studies is that there is what the study says, and there is what the newspapers report what the study says. For example, there was the famous study that says bumblebees cannot fly. That was the newspaper report. What the study actually said was that a bumblebee cannot fly UNLESS SHE FLAPS HER WINGS!
Thing is, the negative effects of alcohol in more than very small quantities have been known for centuries, if not for millenia. In fact so have the negative effects of any quantity of alcohol.

I just thought of something, if this is a rule, and if I suck in a mouthfull of Nitro while priming my tank, would that disqualify me from being able to fly?

Probably make you too sick to fly.

Yes.

Maybe a different study, this one appears to have been released on 22 September 2004.

Anyhow, its a moot point, it was posted as response to why anyone may choose to drink an adult beverage.



Now back to the issue...what was that again...

So far its just made my tongue go numb and my toes tingle. Sometimes my plane will change colors and go inverted but those must be because of radio hits. Watching me fly is what makes me sick.[:'(]

Unfortunately, this is the type of mentality that creates so many problems. "Make a Law", "Make a Law." I can understand some time restraint concerning the use of whatever prior to engaging in some activity be it good or bad.
The "Make it illegal to have whatever for everyone everywhere," is a socialist function that I totally reject be it good or bad. We get more than enough of such garbage in simply living.

I am not a drinker nor am I a smoker. I accept placing limits like time limits for driving, flying models or full size, or operating any kind of boat before after or while drinking. Anything where operating under the influence endangers other people.
I accept placing limits on smoking in public places. It only makes intelligent sense.
By non-drinker, I mean I don't go out drinking on my own, and I don't have any alcoholic beverage in my house. I do occassionaly have some beer or wine when I'm with other people, especially on business trips. It seems to be expected. Better class people don't have any problem with my drinking water or soft drinks, but I've been out with (Small) businessmen who seemed to be threatened by non-drinkers. Some drinking people become very hostile in this situation.