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eagle1230 04-13-2011 05:22 AM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 
If the rules change, I will fly by the new rules, because I enjoy the hobby. That encludes followering the rules!
Thank You!

RCKen 04-13-2011 06:52 AM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 
I need to apologize to the group that this thread got so far out of control. I was out of the loop for a few days and had very limited time to watch the forum here, and unfortunately the thread blew up. I have cleaned up the crap from this thread, so you may notice a huge chunk of the thread missing. I will only say that some people here on RCU had better learn to get along better with others here or they won't like the outcome that's going to happen. <div>
</div><div>Ken</div>

edge_pilot 04-13-2011 07:27 AM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 
Here's a simple answer:

When I'm at an AMA event I follow there rules, when I fly elsewhere I make the rules. (this is how I been flying for 30 years, but don't tell nobody.)

RC MANIAC119 04-13-2011 09:26 AM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 
I thought there was too much honest exchange of information and ideas going on for a brief moment.....noW I know why...WELCOME BACK CENSOR NAZI!!!

MinnSpin 04-13-2011 09:36 AM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 
Here, here.

Sport_Pilot 04-13-2011 10:03 AM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 


ORIGINAL: Thomas B

It is amazing to me how many people must have slept through various Civics/US Government classes in school and that they also never happened to catch the Schoolhouse Rock episode on "How a Bill Becomes a Law".....:)

(A bill making it through the Senate is only one step in a process....)

Then you must know how admendments get changed or thrown out in the last minute.

Sport_Pilot 04-13-2011 10:06 AM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 


ORIGINAL: CottcoRC

Mr Sluggo......

You make a good point.


If the ruling, indeed, mirrors the senator's letter, what will the remaining RCU/AMA forum have left to debate?


It leaves out very large models, turbines, etc. That will be / has beendebated.

Sport_Pilot 04-13-2011 10:11 AM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 


ORIGINAL: Richard39

My experience with two local clubs would indicate that everyone will continue to fly as they wish and no one in the club with authority will stop them..... Everyone here flys by the good old boy rules.... no AMA or other agency rules will be inforced if the members wish to fly high, wide and fast.... One big problem with the AMA Rules is that they are not rules... only recommendations....

It's a good thing your profile doesn't list a club. Or I would fear for their charter.

Sport_Pilot 04-13-2011 10:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: Richard39

I understand that some of this has been beaten to death in various postings...But forget the subject and help me understand that we do not have to follow AMA guidelines and suggestions... Is that true? we can fly anyway we wish at AMA fields because there are no Rules? only guidelines and suggestions by AMA....

That is right to a point. If the AMA finds out they may pull the clubs Charter. So no insurance. If the property is leased then they will likely run you off when the AMA notifies them that you have no insurance..

MinnSpin 04-13-2011 10:54 AM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 
Good Point.
For whom do you lobby?

Fili 04-13-2011 12:18 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 
Why was this thread edited?

RCKen 04-13-2011 12:23 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 


I edited this thread to remove an off topic attack made against a member.

Ken</p>

tinner1 04-13-2011 01:58 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 

flythesky,
On a side note, I am amazed at the number of people that promote anarchy.
Read these forums often enough and you will see the same posters against everything and anything posted by anybody anytime! Rules for society and safety are for others in their minds...

cj_rumley 04-13-2011 03:42 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 


ORIGINAL: tinner1


flythesky,
On a side note, I am amazed at the number of people that promote anarchy.
Read these forums often enough and you will see the same posters against everything and anything posted by anybody anytime! Rules for society and safety are for others in their minds...
If not for anarchy, you would be subjects of a monarchy in his/her colony. Careful what you wish for............

CottcoRC

Sorry to see you have thrown in the towel, and thanks for persevering up 'till now. I found your poll and ensuing discussion to be informative and thought provoking.

Cletus

Fili 04-13-2011 06:00 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 
internet trolls... why I'm rarely here anymore.

cj_rumley 04-13-2011 06:07 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 


ORIGINAL: Fili

internet trolls... why I'm rarely here anymore.
I'm pleased to hear you have made that choice.

Fili 04-13-2011 06:14 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 


ORIGINAL: cj_rumley



ORIGINAL: Fili

internet trolls... why I'm rarely here anymore.
I'm pleased to hear you have made that choice.
How clearly you make my point

cj_rumley 04-13-2011 06:46 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 


ORIGINAL: Fili



ORIGINAL: cj_rumley



ORIGINAL: Fili

internet trolls... why I'm rarely here anymore.
I'm pleased to hear you have made that choice.
How clearly you make my point
You're welcome. Bye

littlecrankshaf 04-13-2011 07:48 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 

ORIGINAL: WestCoastFlyer



Silent, you're very knowledgeable regarding the AMA and AMA insurance - historically have AMA insurance claims been denied when a safety code violation was involved?

Certainly a claim may be denied... even if the safety code was not violated. It is known that an AMA representative has been adverse to a claimant in a court of law, ultimately preventing full coverage of his medical damages.. It is a fact. It has occurred before.

We should not fool ourselves and rely on speculation of whether or not a claim might be denied based on a SC violation...that would be a very ridiculous notion to think it could not be IMO based on what I have learned.

MinnSpin 04-13-2011 08:45 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 
Not sure that I am completely throwing in the towel.The remaining content of the threadmay continue cycling since there are severalrepeatvisitors readily willing to asses and post.As RCUKen said however,,,threads don't always turn out the way the OP had intended. That was certainly the case here. The original poll question was stupid, plain and simple. It wasmeant to be cynical (spelling) with a skosh of humor, not disrespectful as was pointed out by several posts. My apologies to anyone offended by post comments.
<span style="font-size: x-small">
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<span style="font-size: x-small">Thanks, Cletus - appreciate your comments.</span>

MinnSpin 04-13-2011 09:03 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 
I edited to offset damage the original questioned posed. This thread was a bust.

RCKen removed the smoldering ashes left behind by several trolls - thread trolls arescum , plain and simple.


tinner1 04-14-2011 03:33 AM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 

cy rumley,

If not for anarchy, you would be subjects of a monarchy in his/her colony. Careful what you wish for............
I would like to clarify something for you, I am for revolution but NOT anarchy...

According to Websters online:

Anarchy... "a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority" .

Revolution...."a fundamental change in political organization; especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed"

"Revolutionists" are what made the US what it is today. I believe in questioning the government, and sometimes changing it...BUT "anarchy" is a lawless society. Biggest man, biggest gun rules. I'm not for that...People need some sort of government in order to be civilized, otherwise "anarchy" will rule...

cj_rumley 04-14-2011 06:42 AM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 


ORIGINAL: tinner1


cy rumley,

If not for anarchy, you would be subjects of a monarchy in his/her colony. Careful what you wish for............
I would like to clarify something for you, I am for revolution but NOT anarchy...

According to Websters online:

Anarchy... ''a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority'' .

Revolution....''a fundamental change in political organization; especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed''

''Revolutionists'' are what made the US what it is today. I believe in questioning the government, and sometimes changing it...BUT ''anarchy'' is a lawless society. Biggest man, biggest gun rules. I'm not for that...People need some sort of government in order to be civilized, otherwise ''anarchy'' will rule...
Tinner-

There is some ambiguity in the term, so you have to consider the usage. In context, it appeared to have been applied to 3 out of 4 of the respondents to the poll. I think this meaning (from Wiki) fits better: "Most often, the term "anarchy" describes the simple absence of publicly recognized government or enforced political authority." I doubt that the folks referred to are intent on revolution, but are simply questioning authority and saying they may chose to not recognize it. Maybe my use of a particular example was inappropriate, as in that instance anarchy led to revolution.

TexasAirBoss 04-14-2011 05:03 PM

RE: If rules change, will you honor new rules?
 


ORIGINAL: cj_rumley



ORIGINAL: tinner1


cy rumley,

If not for anarchy, you would be subjects of a monarchy in his/her colony. Careful what you wish for............
I would like to clarify something for you, I am for revolution but NOT anarchy...

According to Websters online:

Anarchy... ''a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority'' .

Revolution....''a fundamental change in political organization; especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed''

''Revolutionists'' are what made the US what it is today. I believe in questioning the government, and sometimes changing it...BUT ''anarchy'' is a lawless society. Biggest man, biggest gun rules. I'm not for that...People need some sort of government in order to be civilized, otherwise ''anarchy'' will rule...
Tinner-

There is some ambiguity in the term, so you have to consider the usage. In context, it appeared to have been applied to 3 out of 4 of the respondents to the poll. I think this meaning (from Wiki) fits better: ''Most often, the term ''anarchy'' describes the simple absence of publicly recognized government or enforced political authority.'' I doubt that the folks referred to are intent on revolution, but are simply questioning authority and saying they may chose to not recognize it. Maybe my use of a particular example was inappropriate, as in that instance anarchy led to revolution.

I guess anarchist can make up their own definitions.:D


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