RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Will you ever grow tired of chasing your own tail and typing useless drivel?

... I mean really, will you ever??:eek:

Take a break for a couple of days... head out to a field and have someone buddybox you on their trainer or something.... sheeesh!

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Brad
You may tell people you drink a glass of chlorine every morning,
but the rest of us call that stuff coming out your kitchen sink "water'
(yes, we call it water even though it has some chlorine in it
just like we call a paper product with some silk fibers added 'Silkspan', not Silk)

So go have a tall cool glass of chlorine, no hard feelings

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Just curious Kid, have you ever used silk and/or silkspan?

Regards
Frank

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

(AMA 340189) Propietary secrets! - troll...

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Kidepoxy post #32

Kidepoxy post # 42

Just holding you to the same level of accuracy that you want from MA.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Frank
Great question: if I say
I've used silk & dope to cover a plane
are you guys thinking I really did use silk, or are you thinking I used silkspan,
or are you guys just considering them the same thing that doesnt need differentiation

So, whats your answer to that,
does saying silk was used mean silk was used or does it mean silkspan was used
(aka, is it wrong to claim silk used if one used silkspan) ?
And what about using other tissue & doping skins,
do they count as using Silkspan tissue (which you guys count as Silk)

How can I answer your question if we dont know how you are going to interpret the answer I give


of course
none of you guys' smoke and mirrors focus on me personally
is actually justifying MA making a goof on the magazine.... I just dont see how MA being right or wrong hinges on what Kid Epoxy has / hasnt done (nor that hilarious insult about me needing a buddybox). I never walked on the sun, but I know its freakin hot even without that hands on experience, just as even with MA's goof calling silkspan Silk, I know they are not the same... What I dont know is why folks here have a need to oppose me when I say silk is silk and silkspan aint that

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Kid, I'm sure some of these modern guys think we are talking about different kinds of plastic film such as they have seen on their crashed ARF's.:D I've used films some but never got good at it, so about fifteen years ago I went back exclusively to silk, silkspan, or tissue, and dope.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Hi KidE- I agree with you. If you state you covered with Japanese tissue and nitrate dope I wouldn't 'convert' the meaning to silk and butyrate dope or silkspan and nitrate dope. The AMA article had some glaring miscrepencies. This isn't about semantics. It's about accuracy. Silkspan does not equal silk. I have used silk, silkspan Jap tissue, domestic tissue, various films and fabrics and even Tyvek and cardboard to cover wings and things. I keep silk and silkspan 'in stock' at my house. I buy and use thinners and dopes by the gallons, in some cases.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Ask a simple question and I get a 200+ word verbose rant. If I read between the lines I think the simple answer is No. My only point is that if you have ever used any of these fabrics you would know that their application is pretty much the same whether you use silk, silkspan, Japanese tissue, cotton, Dacron, Stits fabric, etc, etc…. I would not recommend silk or silkspan for a FF penny plane nor would I recommend Japanese tissue for a CL stunter however the applications would be similar in their use. So what is the argument here? That all these different fabrics are different or that the editing of a magazine that you don’t read is bad?

Regards
Frank

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

I think you do know.........
If there is anything about MA or the org that publishes it that doesn't meet your standards, there is a problem with your standards. Simple............. adjust your expectations and all will be well.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

On thinking about it, probably all of us who could have written a better article, but didn't, ought to be more abashed than critical.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

see, this is exactly why it takes 200 words to answer your questions:
Just as I said before,
by your freakishly open ended criteria, silk includes silkspan JapTissue cotton dacron stits etc etc etc,
I can answer 'yes' when you ask

however, when Hoss or Toolman or ED DM ask if I used silk, using standard criteria for what is silk,
then the answer wouldnt be Yes

now you see the problem with your criteria,
and why we need you to let us know the metrics you intend to use when we answer your questions

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Here's the chance some of y'all's been waiting for:

http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/CopyEditor.pdf

Put up or shut up time.....

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

No thank you. I've learned a lot from editors over the years and have butted heads with a few but it is not a job I would care to perform. One of the things not mentioned in that job posting is the egos that an editor has to deal with when editing other peoples work. Most editors deserve a lot more respect than what they get and I don’t believe I could do the job justice.

Regards
Frank
Technical Writer

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Has any magazine ever done an article on "secrets of koverall"? If any of you can cite an issue I would much appreciate it. I will be looking through RCU as well. Thanks.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

I seem to recall something in RCM in the early to mid 80's on Coverite. A different manufacture but pretty much the same stuff.

Regards
Frank