Secrets of Silk
 

Just got my latest magazine that has a article all about the "Secrets of Silk". Good, I thought, I might have missed something 40+ years ago when I covered my Falcon 56. So I read the whole article, quite well written on how to cover with silkspan. Well that took me further back to when I was just 8, so I did get some good techniques.

But how come the Editorial staff at MA doesn't know the difference between silk and silkspan? I had assumed that at least some of them know something about basic modeling, but perhaps not.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

He,He, Ha, Ha! Isn't that what computer nerds do? Glad to know that I wasn't the only one looking for something hidden in that topic? :D :D [:-]

Definition of NERD
XXXXXXX especially : one slavishly devoted to intellectual or academic pursuits (computer nerds) Merriam Webster.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

I wrote the editor about the article. I suggested a better method of sticking down silkspan; the same way one does silk. I also made the point, not mentioned in the article, that wings should be covered on both sides at a sitting, and both sides kept moist until finished. Then hang the wing vertically so it will dry evenly on both sides and not develop warps due to uneven drying of the silkspan.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 14px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ">the Editorial staff at MA only care about selling ads. Time they put some content in the rag.</span>

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

In defense of any magazine, the editor can only print what is submitted. I recall some discussion of how you go about this on the AMA forum, and also on the AMA website. I've suggested five articles, and had two published. Model Aviation pays on acceptance.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

No, he can completely rewrite the article if he so choses.  The word editor implies he can edit the article.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

The editor prepares the article for publishing, checks spelling, grammar and layout. The writer/author is responsible for the content. If an article requires a rewrite it should be returned to the writer/author, not rewritten by the editor. As a technical writer edits (other than spelling/grammar) need to be approved by the writer to ensure the intent was not changed by the editing.

Regards
Frank

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

aww man, that poor editor,
unable to stop the writers from putting whatever they want into the magazine if its spelled right
... I feel sorry for the guy [&:]

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

The editor has the capability to reject articles.:(

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

As said, three of my article suggestions were rejected, two were accepted, written up and published. In one article the editor removed a section which was tangential to the article.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

oh
so editors ARE fully capable of rejecting an article about Silk that doesnt actually talk about silk
... they just chose to keep it in this case

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

First, there has been, it seems. a recent change of editors. There is inevitable confusion, dropped balls, etc. in transition. I also wonder if it was a problem with the graphics person not understanding what was going on, and it getting caught too late to change. I recall some such problems with MA in the distant past.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

The article was kinda weak/incomplete. Wet/dry techniques? When to use different weights/grades? The tearing rather than slicing method for edges? It also kinda disses nitrate dope, which is completely bogus.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Well it usually takes me less time to find errors in each issue of MAN than MA.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Seems like it should work that way, but it doesn't for writers of regular MA columns (articles may be handled differently but I can't comment on that from experience). Once the draft is submitted the writer doesn't see it again until he gets the magazine.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

why would you expect them to operate MA any differently than they do their forum. editing stuff that changes the intent and meaning of a post happens there a lot.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

This statement is untrue. I am sent a copy of the edited Battery Clinic column for approval before it goes to press.

- Original Message -
From: Jay Smith
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:06 PM
Subject: Model Aviation May column

Hi Red,

Attached is our initial edit of your column submission that is scheduled to run in the May 2011 issue.

Please take this opportunity to proofread your words, evaluate them for content purposes, and let us know if your text is okay to run as-is or not. Do not use this courtesy as a chance to rewrite your submission; it is an opportunity to catch factual errors.

Replies not received within 24 hours of your receipt of this message are not guaranteed to make the final proofing stage. Please send any corrections to Editor Jay Smith at [email protected].

Thank you for your cooperation and input!

Sincerely,

MA editorial staff

Jay Smith

Editor, Model Aviation Magazine

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Muncie, IN 47302

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Fax: (765) 281-7907

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Looks like MA editorial staff changes over the past couple years have had some positive impact, then.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Some people will complain about anything. Thanks for interjecting some reality Red.

Mongo, please provide examples to back your claim, nobody will be holding their breath.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

I think we should be fairly gentle in our suggestions about how the silkspan article could been more in line with our personal methodology. After all, nothing was said about ARF's, and the airplane in question was a modification of an old Comet kit.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

As Isaid he can complety rewrite the article if he wants too. Too be legit he must rewrite it completly and put his name as the author, or put his name up as co author.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Just saw this thread. Too funny. I read the article and rolled my eyes (again). Silk is great stuff and it's hard to believe anyone writing an article about such doesn't know the difference between it and silkspan. hahahahahaha It is so pitifully funny! C'mere you little silkworm... gimme some of that good stuff! lol

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Then why don't you submit an article?... let's see what you come up with.

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Sport_Pilot,
You obviously have never had anything published professionally. There is a process and relationship between writer/author and editors. Writers write, editors edit. If an editor totally rewrites an article he/she has now become the writer and they are no longer doing what they are paid to do (edit). In my professional writing career I’ve had things returned for rewrite but never had or heard of an editor totally rewriting anything. Rejecting yes, rewriting no.

Regards
Frank

RE: Secrets of Silk
 

Paul,
I do not agree with Mongo that the MA editing is anything like the AMA forum; however as far as examples go the FHHuber’s “AMA Today Survey” thread comes to mind.

http://www.modelaircraft.org/forums/tm.aspx?m=12723

You edited the original poster’s (FHHuber) post then banned him. You also edited and removed easytiger posts and banned him. Some of my posts were edited and some removed by you. I have not been banned yet. Off topic post by you and a past moderator were left to stand and negative responses to those same posts have been removed by you. Just one example where the tone of a thread has been changed by biased editing.

Regards
Frank