June 2011 AMA's Model Aviation
June 2011 issue of AMA's Model Aviation
Don't miss this one. It's great as a subsidized magazine should be. Lots of information between the front and back covers. |
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MA's editor rocks!
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ORIGINAL: Michael R. MA's editor rocks! |
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ORIGINAL: Michael R. MA's editor rocks! It would be nice to sneak in more actual content in and around the advertising dressed in Article's clothing |
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May I suggest that no one overlooks my little comment in the OP?
"It's great as a subsidized magazine should be." :eek: |
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My issue has not arrived yet, but in reviewing my 90's RCM magazines I have no positive thoughts about the coming June issue of MA. I understand the change in mind set of the new decades of people, but would really enjoy some back to basic education in craftsmanship to building models in past years. It seems to be now only a marketing system to buy, crash, and buy. Rememberiing my time as a youth when fishing for trout, I did not hesitate to get fish goo on my hands when cleaning the fish. How come there seems to be such a problem in cleaning castor oil off of a model, and having your hands smell just great. If you want to play with electric trains, just go ahead, and leave us castor oil guys play in the oil without messing around putting train motors in our hobby models. Stop advertising electic train stuff in an aircraft magazine.
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Usually I receive Model Aviation a day or two before I receive Flying Models. So I look at, and evaluate, MA without making a direct comparison. This time I received Flying Models first and so was totally unimpressed by the MA which arrived a couple of days later.
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ORIGINAL: swede5 ORIGINAL: Michael R. MA's editor rocks! FWIW I think he will do a great job. |
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ORIGINAL: BarracudaHockey Mike's not the editor any more. Just a cheerleader then...huh... as I don't recall him ever weighing in on any previous discussion about MA. Sorry, but just an observation. |
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ORIGINAL: BarracudaHockey ORIGINAL: swede5 ORIGINAL: Michael R. MA's editor rocks! FWIW I think he will do a great job. |
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ORIGINAL: swede5 ORIGINAL: BarracudaHockey ORIGINAL: swede5 ORIGINAL: Michael R. MA's editor rocks! FWIW I think he will do a great job. Rob Kurek Director of Publications Chad Budreau Multimedia Editor Frank Granelli Editor (Sport Aviator) Liz Helms Editorial staff Bob Hunt Editor Emeritus Carla Kunz Director of Design/Production Mark Lanterman Advertising Representative Jennifer Orebaugh Associate Editor Ashley Rauen Communication Specialist Michael Ramsey Editor Emeritus Sarah Shaw Graphic Designer Jay Smith Editor Jeff Troy Editor (Park Pilot) Shelia Ames Webb Managing Editor Vickie Wilson Production Associate Brad |
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ORIGINAL: Hossfly May I suggest that no one overlooks my little comment in the OP? ''It's great as a subsidized magazine should be.'' :eek: |
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ORIGINAL: bradpaul ORIGINAL: swede5 ORIGINAL: BarracudaHockey ORIGINAL: swede5 ORIGINAL: Michael R. MA's editor rocks! FWIW I think he will do a great job. Rob Kurek Director of Publications Chad Budreau Multimedia Editor Frank Granelli Editor (Sport Aviator) Liz Helms Editorial staff Bob Hunt Editor Emeritus Carla Kunz Director of Design/Production Mark Lanterman Advertising Representative Jennifer Orebaugh Associate Editor Ashley Rauen Communication Specialist Michael Ramsey Editor Emeritus Sarah Shaw Graphic Designer Jay Smith Editor Jeff Troy Editor (Park Pilot) Shelia Ames Webb Managing Editor Vickie Wilson Production Associate Brad |
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Even when I was a paid member of the publication staff it was my honor to pat colleagues on the back for a job well done. Nobody can take my right to support a group of hard working people. You're allowed an opinion just as much as me. But this point is off topic.
This post seems to be questioning the ethical credibility of the publication's feature selections. As if in some way MA is getting kick-backs or some other boost for promotional work delivered. I can tell you with the utmost certainty that such a thing has never happened and never will. In fact we have to fight tooth-and-nail for popular subject material, and do it with a short list of talent willing to work for the highest aeromodeling author compensation media source. Model Aviation is and always will be a reflection of AMA member activities. If you don't like the content, then change the hobby. |
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ORIGINAL: Michael R. MA's editor rocks! Yeah, much better than that last yutz!!! :D:D:D |
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LMAO. Just call me "Yutz Emeritus."
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ORIGINAL: swede5 OK, so as a retired (by emeritus defined) editor and a listed member of the department he does not get to pat himself and the rest of the department on the back. Sorry that I brought it up in the first place. From their perspective and as the bottom feeders they consider us, we should deeply respect and welcome the accolades they bestow onto themselves... As you found out, the legacy of their importance is paramount to them... emeritus...Hmmm...Sounds like something my wife went to see the gynecologist for.:D Just kidding but easy to see how one might be mistaken. |
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ORIGINAL: Michael R. Even when I was a paid member of the publication staff it was my honor to pat colleagues on the back for a job well done. Nobody can take my right to support a group of hard working people. You're allowed an opinion just as much as me. But this point is off topic. This post seems to be questioning the ethical credibility of the publication's feature selections. As if in some way MA is getting kick-backs or some other boost for promotional work delivered. I can tell you with the utmost certainty that such a thing has never happened and never will. In fact we have to fight tooth-and-nail for popular subject material, and do it with a short list of talent willing to work for the highest aeromodeling author compensation media source. Model Aviation is and always will be a reflection of AMA member activities. If you don't like the content, then change the hobby. The fact that I'm forced to pay for a publication that I don't want and couldn't stand on it's own otherwise is on the One and Only Problem I have with the AMA. It's bad enough I have to pay for insurance I'll never use. Just Email me or post online the Membership Newsletter parts and quit force-feeding me the advertising.. |
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Just to clear the waters just a bit ................... as I believe that there is some between the lines reading going on to original comments.
1. I happen to enjoy MA and appreciate the efforts that go into publishing it. 2. The pat on the back comment was made with a smile as it is deserved no matter if it is internal or external, nor who makes it. 3. Awareness of the contrary nature taken towards information and comments keeps the RCU moderators busy. 4. After touring AMA headquarters I am aware of the efforts and dedications that exist across all departments. So here is a big grin for all that is rightly deserved ............... :D Let's keep it on track and civilized for the benefit and enjoyment of all. Lloyd Swanson AMA Leader Member AMA Contest Director AMA Large Model Aircraft Inspector AMA District VII Associate Vice President Acolades abound .............. :eek: |
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How is it that you're being forced fed advertising?
For instance there are banner ads all over this forum, but there's no one forcing me to read them. I like your idea of having a media delivery choice. |
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Thank you Swede5!
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ORIGINAL: Michael R. How is it that you're being forced fed advertising? For instance there are banner ads all over this forum, but there's no one forcing me to read them. I like your idea of having a media delivery choice. You're really going to make the argument that the magazine isn't forced upon the AMA members? Please let me know where the opt-out check box is on that membership renewal form, I keep missing it |
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ORIGINAL: swede5 Lloyd Swanson AMA Leader Member AMA Contest Director AMA Large Model Aircraft Inspector AMA District VII Associate Vice President Acolades abound .............. :eek: |
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ORIGINAL: Hossfly June 2011 issue of AMA's Model Aviation Don't miss this one. It's great as a subsidized magazine should be. Lots of information between the front and back covers. |
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Actually I like MA...its the only RC model publication I take anymore... but never the less, I can appreciate views to separate the mag from the membership... as I usually side with choice... Why one wouldn't is beyond comprehension... Well... if your an old school American that is...
Notice, no smiley face thingy....I am dead serious about that. |
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ORIGINAL: scale only 4 me ORIGINAL: Michael R. How is it that you're being forced fed advertising? For instance there are banner ads all over this forum, but there's no one forcing me to read them. I like your idea of having a media delivery choice. You're really going to make the argument that the magazine isn't forced upon the AMA members? Please let me know where the opt-out check box is on that membership renewal form, I keep missing it |
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I don't know if anyone else feels as I do about receiving the Model Aviation magazine but I have tried with limited success to get my Model Aviation subscription cancelled. Back in the 1960's an AMA member could opt out of the magazine subscription and the only thing they would receive was the AMA information section. I wish they would offer that option again since as far as I am concerned the magazine is useless and as soon as I receive it I toss it in the trash. I think this is a waste of money on the AMAs part.
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Cessna,
I believe it was Stickbuilder that finally successfully got muncie to stop mailing him the magazine, and by opting out of the magazine (that he is charged $18 for) he saves $0 off his dues. Call muncie and tell them you dont want yours mailed at you, you will stop getting it. |
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Oh, to be sure I noticed. That along with many other things.
As far as assimilation goes, all of the listed items were of my choosing to pursue. This is how I have decided to contribute and at the level of effort that each entail. From my personal point of view I agree with the age old statement that "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem". I know that everyone has their own viewpoints and not all agree, as is their right. Back to the June 2011 MA discussion. For those who don't wish to receive their magazine why not just take it and drop it off at a dentist/doctors office or donate it to a school? Until and if the opt out choice is changed pass the information along to others. I do. |
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You can have the magazine shipped to any address you please. A needy school or library is an excellent option. MA has excellent promotional value.
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ORIGINAL: Michael R. You can have the magazine shipped to any address you please. A needy school or library is an excellent option. MA has excellent promotional value. Are you getting the point yet? |
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Totally get the point.
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ORIGINAL: swede5 Oh, to be sure I noticed. That along with many other things. As far as assimilation goes, all of the listed items were of my choosing to pursue. This is how I have decided to contribute and at the level of effort that each entail. From my personal point of view I agree with the age old statement that ''if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem''. I know that everyone has their own viewpoints and not all agree, as is their right. |
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Sorry, but you're not being "forced" into anything. Your CHOICE is to be an AMA member or not. MA comes with the membership. Easy enough.
Guess I must be one of the oddballs, because I happen to thoroughly enjoy reading MA and look forward to it every month. |
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MA comes with the membership. Easy enough Optional MA is part of AMA history, we can do it again if we just say to, folks seem to keep forgetting that part. AMA existed and thrived and MA was optional then, having the option didnt kill the AMA. So Tarasdad, was AMA wrong then for offering it or wrong now for not offering it? OR, you could just recognize that there is nothing wrong with having it be an option, so AMA wasnt wrong then, and AMA wouldnt be wrong now if they do it again |
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ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy MA comes with the membership. Easy enough Optional MA is part of AMA history, we can do it again if we just say to, folks seem to keep forgetting that part. AMA existed and thrived and MA was optional then, having the option didnt kill the AMA. So Tarasdad, was AMA wrong then for offering it or wrong now for not offering it? OR, you could just recognize that there is nothing wrong with having it be an option, so AMA wasnt wrong then, and AMA wouldnt be wrong now if they do it again If A was wrong then, is B wrong now A is not wrong now, so A was not wrong then (supposition not proven) so A is not wrong now Brad |
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ORIGINAL: Tarasdad Sorry, but you're not being ''forced'' into anything. Your CHOICE is to be an AMA member or not. MA comes with the membership. Easy enough. Guess I must be one of the oddballs, because I happen to thoroughly enjoy reading MA and look forward to it every month. Lets say your state government required as part of your Annual Driver's License Fee they also send you a Magazine. Doing so they now have Millions of "subscribers" to market to advertisers,, Lets now say you just don't like the fact you're being used this way, Like the magazine or not. What are you going to do, Choose not to drive?? |
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That may just set a record for fallacies in a single post. If A was wrong then, is B wrong now A is not wrong now, so A was not wrong then (supposition not proven) so A is not wrong now Brad I will happily simplify it for you: Having optional MA is a coin, you either have it or you dont. Is it wrong to have it? Is it wrong to not have it? Cause AMA has done both. If you would like to say there is a side of that coin that is wrong to do, then you are just narrowing down WHEN you thing AMA was/is wrong. capice? |
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ORIGINAL: bradpaul That may just set a record for fallacies in a single post. If A was wrong then, is B wrong now A is not wrong now, so A was not wrong then (supposition not proven) so A is not wrong now Brad |
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