What a brilliant remark! Keep going.........

I don't understand all the hype about these things as to why anyone wants to own one. First of all, they are flying shred-o-matics. Those spinning props will slice and dice anything they hit.

Secondly, the owner will look like a real dork when calibrating the compass. You have to hold the drone while turning around. Then, you have to hold it sideways and turn around again.
To top that off, when these things are turned on, they make several annoying beeping sounds. It sounds like a child's toy!

Yep! That will sure impress any woman who sees a grown man doing that! :rolleyes:

Want to see a dork doing this on the beach?
Here's the link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoTdK7izUAA

Just jump to the five minute mark and have a few laughs.
Just imagine three hot women watching this fool at the beach and laughing their heads off! ;)

Are you ever in big trouble now!!!

Ok, time for a bait and switch... Just as Jim pointed out, each club has latitude for being however they wish...And I am certainly in agreement...(did you catch the switch??) Sure, the club could decide to only allow green 40 size Kadets with ample dihedral if that's what they want. I am just trying to understand how the actions of a few causes sanctions against a whole group...because that is essentially the perceived fear everyone...well most everyone... laments over and over again in these forums??? Maybe, just maybe, holding each person individually accountable for their own actions is just not PC American any longer???

FWIW, Bruce mentions that they have some great pilots at his club...not sure why he mentions that but just to level that assertion so do we at our club...maybe we need a fly-off to settle this! LOL...although I fail to see any relevance to the subject at hand...but that would be fun...and isn't that what this hobby is really supposed to be about???

Alter Ego off... Back to regular scheduled programing...

Good points! I always wondered why the babes are always chasing me...I fly 60 size glow...they know I must have it...err... going on...and they are so right!

I mention great pilots and Pattern because the FAI sequence eats up a lot of sky, as does a 42% plane. Yet we have NO issues with them. With FPV,even in this most appropriate place to fly, we've had people fly in no fly zones. I thought this thread was about "drones" and the problems they create for us hobbyists? I stand by any law that prevents people from flying over people and personal property. And I also stand against beyond VLOS flying, just like the AMA and FAA. My county in New York is just one of many looking to restrict the use of "drones" whether they are flown FPV or not. Right now our hobby is being painted with a very broad brush by politicians that don't even know what the AMA is. They get their info from the news media and make a case out of it. There was a case of contraband being dropped in a jail in Florida. Just another excuse to ban something. We need to educate the public and show them that model aviation is a safe, fun and educational hobby. More clubs should consider doing events for the public, and get some local politicians there too. I expect LCS to criticize me and I don't give a damn, I don't appreciate being baited.

LCS:
Amen ... This and other Forums do seem to wonder all over the place and forget what the thread is really all about, Don't we? Would be nice if "WE" stayed on the subject at hand ... something might even get accomplished. Now is that just wish full thinking or what?
Egos sometimes do get in the way, wouldn't U agree?

Bruce, I hate to say it but I think it only fair...but you took the bait. But it wasn't me doing the fishing. Hound dog put a thought in your mind about me and you swallowed it... I haven't baited you...not even one time!!! You were caught by a fish eating Dog...LOL...

HD, Even though you and I are about as far away on the spectrum in regards to the "authority oversight" philosophy as any two could possibly be, I respect your opinions but no doubt I will argue against them...and you know it...it is refreshing that we can do that in a fun and adult manner.

I think AMA's role, first and foremost is about education. We are the students and the teachers in this hobby. I truly believe education will ultimately prevail over most all of our concerns if we give it a chance. This FPV stuff is just a bit ahead of the curve for our current curriculum but to short circuit it with constant negativity will only produce retarded evolution of the hobby going forward and the possible demise of same/each. I think there are those wise people within AMA that truly understands that...unfortunately there are many others that feel AMA's role is to "control" model aviation instead of simply educating. We should lead by example...that is to show how FPV and other non-conventional or non-traditional aero-modeling can be done safely and without impinging on others in any negative way. That's right...instead of always showing the worst, we should try to show the best... I am perfectly fine with letting those that do not understand the difference to be held accountable for their lack of judgement. There is ample law on the books to allow such. We just have to get back to what has always been the best for all of use...We need to return to following the actual "rule of law" that once made this country great!

That first quote says it all. There are no longer real laws in this country that hold anyone responsible for their actions, rather beliefs that x, y, or z should be prosecuted for a, b, and or c. If you doubt that, check out Mike Nifong and his activities.

As for you comments in the second quote, I have reservations about the AMA's ability or willingness to educate rather than control as the approach in use appears to be control to manage the collateral damage rather than educate so the difference between renegades and us is seen, recognized, accepted, and acted on. Having said that and having looked at the politrician class I am not convinced that education to that standard is possible by anyone, much less the AMA. Remember politricians AT ALL LEVELS are folks who do things for and by looks and they depend on the entertainment media for direction. Other people call the entertainment media 'the news'. This is heavy meat for a totally different very serious discussion but not for modeling.

Jim: I agree with that statement. The AMA only " Makes Safety Suggestions for Flying". They do not control anything. The FAA makes Rules and suggestions, passed by Congress for Law, However, they do need to make new restrictions , where ""ALL R/C aircraft"" are not considered "Drones" in a catagory buy itself." Newly developed Quad Copters" make it clear.
R/C aircraft have been around for 50-75 years or so, and no problems surfaced until the latest invention of the "Quad Copter" with cameras within the last couple of years.
Airline Pilots has submitted numerous reports about this subject, but nothing has been done to correct it. Numerous Firefighting Crews powered by Props and jets, have been grounded by idiots flying around a fire, to capture a photograph of the fire.
These idiots, do not understand the very basic rules of Safety when flying, they just go ahead and do it,
It is time for US to come up with a Safety Plan that will serve the public and preserve our hobby as it is now.
If this is not done, we will see more regulations, more rules, and a slow destruction of this hobby as we see it today.

Originally Posted by BobbyMcGee http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/imag...post-right.png I don't understand all the hype about these things as to why anyone wants to own one. First of all, they are flying shred-o-matics. Those spinning props will slice and dice anything they hit.

Secondly, the owner will look like a real dork when calibrating the compass. You have to hold the drone while turning around. Then, you have to hold it sideways and turn around again.
To top that off, when these things are turned on, they make several annoying beeping sounds. It sounds like a child's toy!

Yep! That will sure impress any woman who sees a grown man doing that! :rolleyes:

Want to see a dork doing this on the beach?
Here's the link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoTdK7izUAA

Just jump to the five minute mark and have a few laughs.
Just imagine three hot women watching this fool at the beach and laughing their heads off! ;)

EXACTLY!

So, this is just one more reason ... and a major reason why we have to ban the drones. Because if we don't ban the drones, women and people who can't distinguish the difference will associate all those drone dorks with us!

WE CAN'T HAVE THAT!

The lipos could possibly do some damage

Although modern Turbo Fans should be able to survive ingesting an 8lb chicken.
It's been discussed here before but, there aren't many steel and Plastic 5 lb birds
flying around being ingested by Turbo Fans.

I hope this isn't a repost. I just saw a video from the UK that shows a Glock handgun mounted on a Quad. It's capable of firing an aimed shot about every 3 seconds. The builder is an 18 yr old from the U.S. It's pretty sick. The quad is not all that big either. The handgun weighs about 2 pounds with a full 16 round mag. This is definitely illegal and could result in some jail time

i didn't include the site/video as I don't know if it is appropriate or acceptable here.

its just a matter of time before a tragedy strikes.

It is actually not illegal, at least not on your own property anyway.

This is definitely illegal and could result in some jail time

Sport:
All depends where U live. U can not discharge a firearm, If U live in a municipality the has Ordinances against the discharge of fire arms.

[QUOTE=Sport_Pilot;12071343]It is actually not illegal, at least not on your own property anyway.[/QU

Maybe not in the UK, but the FAA forbids mounting weapons on aircraft in the USA, doesn't it?

[QUOTE=KC Air;12071412]I don't agree with the FAA that the regulation against mounting weapons on full scale certified aircraft applies to uncertified UAV's. Especially on your on property. This is more of the FAA saying that regulations that are clearly inappropriate for sUAV applies to them. Part 91 for example.

A year or two ago a TV show about gun modifications made a hex copter with a machine gun on it. They had license to own and sell machine guns.

[QUOTE=Sport_Pilot;12071424]Awww come on. This is NOTthe place to take the FAA to task for whatever it is you don't believe in or agree with. If you wish to tilt windmills with the FAA I can suggest the names of several very good aviation lawyers you can try to take your case, but please take your agreements/disagreements with the authorities private rather than waste a lot of bandwidth about the various legalities. Now if you happen to be a lawyer, please take your case to someone who can do something about it rather than spew forth you hopes and wishes on the members of this forum.

[QUOTE=KC Air;12071412] Not in Texas just paste this into youtube.com "helicopter hog HUNTING IN TEXAS"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYVkYyuRiII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA5uOSkPcZ4

Another reason why I will avoid Texas whenever possible

[QUOTE=HoundDog;12071528]

OOOPS looks like I was wrong
But this combined with FPV might prove fun.

http://www.businessinsider.com/hacke...ley+Insider%29

[QUOTE=KC Air;12071542]Another reason why I will avoid Texas whenever possible

Makes geeky FPV videos seem pretty tame..huh?