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fliers1 09-08-2019 05:18 AM

FAA test for RC fixed wing?
 
• Eric Williams (District II) noted that the FAA testing boards seem to agree that the proposed tests need
to be on the level of a 13-year-old. Eric has worked with the FAA from the perspective of a modeler. He
expects the testing result to be something along the line of possibly a 1-hour informational presentation
and then the test.

flyboy2610 09-08-2019 09:17 AM

You're talking about the government. Nothing surprises me. It has been said that a camel is a horse designed by a government committee.

jollyroger 09-12-2019 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by flyboy2610 (Post 12548806)
You're talking about the government. Nothing surprises me. It has been said that a camel is a horse designed by a government committee.

Good one. How about this one: there is no such thing as a temporary government measure.
or: I'm from the government and I'm here to help you.

RCFlyerDan 09-12-2019 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by fliers1 (Post 12548745)
• Eric Williams.. the proposed tests need
to be on the level of a 13-year-old.

Due to our great school system, at least half of the adults can’t read on a 13 year old’s level.

flyboy2610 09-12-2019 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by RCFlyerDan (Post 12549868)


Due to our great school system, at least half of the adults can’t read on a 13 year old’s level.

Most couldn't pass an eighth grade math test from 100 years ago, either.

Hydro Junkie 09-12-2019 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by RCFlyerDan (Post 12549868)
Due to our great school system, at least half of the adults can’t read on a 13 year old’s level.


Originally Posted by flyboy2610 (Post 12549935)
Most couldn't pass an eighth grade math test from 100 years ago, either.

And who, pray tell, is at fault for that?

mongo 09-12-2019 08:38 PM

the department of education...

Hydro Junkie 09-13-2019 04:48 AM

I was thinking more along the lines of the parents since they let everything happen without saying anything or complaining

RCFlyerDan 09-13-2019 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie (Post 12549994)
I was thinking more along the lines of the parents since they let everything happen without saying anything or complaining

The Parents prior are the Blind being led by their Blind Parents. Each Generation allows for less, Parents don’t discipline their kids, those kids disrupt classrooms creating a non-learning environment. Those teachers can’t discipline and lack the ability of laws to protect them, other than now here in Florida are allowing teachers to use guns, but can’t use them to discipline kids. Teachers have no business having guns in school. Because the Parents and Teachers don’t discipline, it is left to the police doing the job of poor parenting. Then, Parents get all bent out of shape when their ill mannered 13 year old is disciplined by the police and goes to jail. IMHO 🤔

init4fun 09-13-2019 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by mongo (Post 12549954)
the department of education...


Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie (Post 12549994)
I was thinking more along the lines of the parents since they let everything happen without saying anything or complaining

Perhaps at first glance , you can see the blame here as being a chain of "who done wrong" , the parents , the department of education , societal erosion , etc .

BUT !

At the end of the day , once the child has grown , doesn't the ultimate responsibility lie with the person who allows his or her self to remain uneducated ? As in , what about taking personal responsibility for correcting areas in one's life that are lacking ?

Yes of course young children need to be properly educated , that much is obvious . But by the time they are teenagers/young adults , by the time they are 18 and we're putting guns in their hands and sending them into combat with our military , they should have already developed the presence of mind to realize that knowledge IS power , and that in order to become powerful the quest for knowledge has to be nothing less than a personally driven lifelong commitment . Making excuses for people's unwillingness to actively help educate themselves leads to all kinds of mollycoddling of people who otherwise should be taking the personal responsibility of taking care of themselves .

The government can't mandate or otherwise force someone to WANT be educated anymore than the government could force someone to want to make other healthy life/lifestyle choices , "Supersized" fast food menu bans be damned ! .....

speedracerntrixie 09-13-2019 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by init4fun (Post 12550028)
Perhaps at first glance , you can see the blame here as being a chain of "who done wrong" , the parents , the department of education , societal erosion , etc .

BUT !

At the end of the day , once the child has grown , doesn't the ultimate responsibility lie with the person who allows his or her self to remain uneducated ? As in , what about taking personal responsibility for correcting areas in one's life that are lacking ?

Yes of course young children need to be properly educated , that much is obvious . But by the time they are teenagers/young adults , by the time they are 18 and we're putting guns in their hands and sending them into combat with our military , they should have already developed the presence of mind to realize that knowledge IS power , and that in order to become powerful the quest for knowledge has to be nothing less than a personally driven lifelong commitment . Making excuses for people's unwillingness to actively help educate themselves leads to all kinds of mollycoddling of people who otherwise should be taking the personal responsibility of taking care of themselves .

The government can't mandate or otherwise force someone to WANT be educated anymore than the government could force someone to want to make other healthy life/lifestyle choices , "Supersized" fast food menu bans be damned ! .....


I assume that most of you guys are older then me, I am 54 and it wasn't until recently that I have no children in the house. These days parents are severely handicapped as to how they can discipline their children. In many states a spanking is considered an assault. Raising your voice is mental abuse, sending them to bed without dinner is physical and mental abuse.

Government has taken our parenting power away, think of all the money the judicial system brings in? How many people the judicial system employs. Our government wants crime to keep that machine running and keep the American citizens in fear.

mkjohnston 09-14-2019 12:12 PM

Hi , I briefly talked to one of the district VPS at a swap meet a few weeks and he told me that there was test in works and it was going to have easy questions on it. He also said that FAA is pushing transponders for our RC aircraft just like they have on full size airplanes.
Michael Johnston

Hydro Junkie 09-14-2019 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by init4fun (Post 12550028)
Perhaps at first glance , you can see the blame here as being a chain of "who done wrong" , the parents , the department of education , societal erosion , etc .

BUT !

At the end of the day , once the child has grown , doesn't the ultimate responsibility lie with the person who allows his or her self to remain uneducated ? As in , what about taking personal responsibility for correcting areas in one's life that are lacking ?

Yes of course young children need to be properly educated , that much is obvious . But by the time they are teenagers/young adults , by the time they are 18 and we're putting guns in their hands and sending them into combat with our military , they should have already developed the presence of mind to realize that knowledge IS power , and that in order to become powerful the quest for knowledge has to be nothing less than a personally driven lifelong commitment . Making excuses for people's unwillingness to actively help educate themselves leads to all kinds of mollycoddling of people who otherwise should be taking the personal responsibility of taking care of themselves .

The government can't mandate or otherwise force someone to WANT be educated anymore than the government could force someone to want to make other healthy life/lifestyle choices , "Supersized" fast food menu bans be damned ! .....

The way I see it, you want to make our kids smarter, take away their smart phones. They can't do math, the smart phone calculator function does it for them. They can't write, too much time texting so spelling, grammar and actually forming sentences is foreign to them. Some school districts are actually dropping the requirement of being able to write longhand as it's no longer needed. That's news to me, I have to write quite often in my work and doing my hobbies. I've actually been told that if you can't find something on the internet, it doesn't exist. If you can't find an item for sale on the internet, it doesn't exist either.


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